Originally Posted by Laterlater

This is too easy.
I actually had a fair opinion of you prior to this.


But this is an affront not only to basic critical thinking but to reliable sources 101; its as if you cheery-picked the facts that support your delusive narrative without absolutely any context - using the most discredible sources to boot -without even bothering to read them. This is simply self-discrediting.

Either you harbour such supreme contempt for your audience or are genuinely too dishonest or uncritical yourself.

The whole of your contention is founded basically on source2, "the good guys" thing, derived from some obscure opinion website, written by an anonymous nomenclature "Kosar". Their is a reason he wouldn't dignify this piece with his own name:

(Your Source2)
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/b...l-immigration/

Within it "Kosar" references Trumps "5-point plan about immigration" that has presumably gone hitherto unnoticed. For which he provides another source.

(Pro Tip, click on the links on webpages and read them)

Which takes us to:

http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/donald-tr...anchor-babies/

And you immediately discover two thing:
1) That the "5-point immigration" plan that helps the "good guys" is based on Trump’s 2011 book, “Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again”. Again, 2011, during his abortive attempt at running for president.
I suppose context and background aren’t really relevant when it doesn’t suit your delusional narratives.

2) There is no plan contained within it to keep "the guy good" in America. - It is exclusively focused on enforcement of current law.

(Since you appear too inept to research and read primary documents yourself: http://www.ontheissues.org/Get_Tough.htm or buy the book on Amazon.)

In fact, he makes the counter-factual claim within it: “I actually have a theory that Mexico is sending their absolute worst, possibly including prisoners, in order for us to bear the cost, both financial and social. This would account for the fact that there is so much crime and violence.”

Source1 can be dismissed of-hand nearly - but lets look at it. It is not even Republicans per-se, it’s a single Republican congressman starting a pro-immigration PAC that he actually subverted as a vehicle to curry favor. In fact - such is your contempt for yourself and others - the very same article itself diminishes it as nothing more than such:

“When the time comes they will be poised to help us on the immigration issue,” Curbelo said. “I could have just established a generic leadership PAC but I decided voluntarily — I didn’t have to do this — to employ this resource to advance a policy agenda that is important to me.”
"Leadership PACs are typically used by politicians to curry favor and build rapport with colleagues through donations. Curbelo was, and still is, adamant that WACPAC is not a typical leadership PAC.
But statements from at least two congressmen who received money from WACPAC indicate otherwise.
Hunter’s chief of staff, Joe Kasper, suggested that Curbelo and Hunter’s co-membership on the transportation and infrastructure committee was a major reason why WACPAC donated to Hunter. “I know they have a personal relationship,” he said."

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that you cannot be bothered to read the articles you post "as evidence" - when the slightest cursory examination shows that they repudiate or outright contradict the positions they were posted to support.

All in all, it’s impossible to exaggerate how sublimely idiotic this was as far as -what did you call it? - "Absolute evidence" goes. No, not idiotic, downright dishonest if intentional or even semi-serious, which is worse. I will answer the rest when I get home, point by point. (I admit, I enjoy this sort of thing).

In fact, I can argue your case better than you can, and point out his actual position, which ive already alluded to. It isn’t deportation either but its hardly better than what is being offered on the opposite aisle.

I myself was a Bernie supporter – I phone banked for him in Atlanta and donated few hundreds. But we do not have the luxury of deluding ourselves.

Lie to me, lie to everyone else; but don’t lie to yourself. Those are the worst sort – the ones we tell ourselves.