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01-28-2018, 08:14 PM
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Swim19
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Originally Posted by Smooth View Post
Swim, we honestly lost any position of strength we had at the negotiating table when Democrats gave in during the shutdown. We really aren't in a position to demand anything now. Are we to lobby Democrats to hold the line on bill elements? We know they are spineless.

We can only choose to end up with nothing. We all know what the GOP wants. We either take it or leave it. Democrats lost all bargaining leverage. They will not shut government down again, so it's your choice.
We also know what the Democrats are willing to concede (and I don't think they will agree to this proposal, in fact they've come out and said they won't), so we are at an impasse. Unless the GOP tries to pass it on their own with the help of moderate Democrats (but will they - moderate GOP & DEms agree to massive cuts to legal immigration?) Honestly with renewals now allowed even for a short period of time, I would rather wait until 2018 to see what that brings than agree to the WH proposal. That's my opinion though and I don't have any sway on Congress so it doesn't really matter what I think.
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