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Originally Posted by CUSenior
Exclusion of European immigrants? Are you high?
And don't put words in my mouth. I find it perfectly justifiable to give Trump border security and the wall in exchange for fixing the DACA issue. But trading 1.8 million people for a dramatic reduction in immigration as well as a wall and border security is bullshit. The only way radically changing the legal immigration system would be justifiable and politically practical would be if all 11 million were legalized.
Gentrification schmentrification. That's totally off topic. Sorry but poor immigrants don't do shit to gentrify Mexican communities. We are a finite country but we are a large country and there are plenty of places where next to no one lives and are just waiting to be settled by another wave of immigrants (think the modern version of the 19th century German immigrants). Without mass immigration, our fate will be like Japan's: an aging and dying people with a stagnant economy and no innovation.
Who said anything about letting anyone who wants to come to the US into the country? If a relative is willing to wait 30 fucking years for a green card instead of getting permanent residence in another comparable country in five or six years, then I think they make up a rather small group. The same logic explains why Dreamers who have been here for 15 years should be able to get green cards.
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that is the logic you are using when attempting to justify the current system on the basis that, well before we excluded non-whites. it's not bullshit, explain how it's bullshit.
you people have a thin grasp on how immigration works and impacts countries.
it's fine if you want more and more immigration, but recognize the faults and errors that leads to.
in what way is cutting legal immigration "changing" the system radically?
the way things are done now is unsustainable.
you keep adding and adding people while still trying to assimilate the ones you already have here.
you basically have no idea what you're saying, the economy has it's way of adjusting itself, it's already happening in japan.
adding waves of immigrants is not how you solve a country's problems. this is absolutely absurd thinking, and gentrification is a very real problem. are you dumb? there's countless examples, literally google it.
you people have been using the japan argument and i prove you wrong everytime.
they're doing fine all things considered.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20.../#.WxeZbkgvzIU