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Originally Posted by CUSenior
Well you are attacking family reunification and in order to justify it, you tirade that they don’t want to assimilate/create ties. I’m refuting that because only people who are absolutely committed to America would wait 35 years to immigrate to America.
You don’t understand the rules of discourse. If you want to be taken seriously when you claim that family reunification is detrimental to America, then you’re going to have to use evidence to prove that it indeed is a problem. You have the burden of proof here since you’re making the claim, not me. I’m not required to see it as a problem a priori. From my vantage point, your views on immigration stem from nothing but your political views—a source that represent a privileging of emotion and passion over reason.
If there’s a problem with family reunification, make a convincing argument grounded in evidence and if you’re convincing, I’ll change my mind.
I’m giving you a chance. If you squander it, I will continue to see your views as hypocritical and deliberately misleading. If you provide citations convincing evidence to support your claims, I’m willing to be moved.
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your refutation is irrelevant to what i'm trying to get you to understand and my point in all of this.
how is the fact that it's hard for them to become citizens stop the GC status that is granted to millions?
there is no burden of proof for me when i have summed it up for you in as basic of a way as i can. you refuse to understand that there even is a problem with chain migration.
i didn't say "family reunification" is detrimental, i said chain migration and i've been pretty clear what people mean when they say that.
this is your problem with things, you want to reframe the issue as a moral stance and change the meaning of what i'm trying to say.
this is what i'm saying: chain migration is a real problem that americans don't like, we should prioritize people like DACA'ers who are virtually assimilated over people from other countries that are often way older than most of us and are disadvantaged at ever assimilating.
this is how you try and reframe the discussion: "well it's not chain migration it's family reunification, what are you, against families?"
if you can't understand the basic fundamental problem with bringing millions of people over the years with virtually no ties to this country, limited prospects, and in some cases vastly different cultural norms and values to us, than no amount of evidence i can show you, will ever change your ardent support for more and more immigration.