It is very clear at this point that Nancy and Chuck are not going to cave, unless their donors get pissed and tell them to do so. I will be shocked if they cave at this point, because it simply seems like they do not want to give Trump a win at any cost. And consequently, there is not going to be any wall and daca deal. What we should hope for is that the Supreme court does not take our case and let the ruling from the lower courts stand. (I was not sure yesterday if it went through all of the necessary courts that it needed to go through before reaching the Supreme court, but several of you told me that it did.) So if they do not take it up, then we should be good beyond 2020. If they take it up, then more than likely they will rule against it. And this time, Trump will be the one that wouldn't wan to cut a deal. In other words, Trump will have the Democrats by the balls and will ask for an arm and a leg for maybe a Bridge Act. Let's hope that the Supreme court does not take the case .
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Originally Posted by cmeow
People need to realize deportation isn't the only solution. You can fine them also since it's a civil (not criminal) violation. In fact when dems didn't control the house, they should've made the dreamers pay for the wall and since most dreamers are from south of the border they can say mexico paid for it. Kinda late for that now and the blame falls to Stephen Miller & other hard line republicans.
It makes no economic sense either because unemployment is at an all time low. What are you going to do? Deport 700k people then import 700k new foreigners to fill dreamers' jobs? We pay taxes like everyone else. The foreigners simply don't know and love the country like the dreamers do. Significant resources will have to be spent integrating 700k new foreigners. Foreigners are most likely not American educated either.
Dreamers aren't criminals. If you commit a crime your DACA will be revoked and most likely deported.
Right now, if people are saying no to DACA legalization, they're literally saying no to the wall. Republicans need to force dems to show if they truly care about dreamers or not. If dems says no to DACA, then you can say dems just use DACA for political gain (a win for republicans). If dems say yes, you get the wall (a win for republicans). Don't put any other stuff like the 4 pillars because you're giving dems more reason to deny it. Just DACA legalization (USA act or better) and maybe TPS + wall funding.
If the republicans do this, they'll definitely get latino votes and most importantly, take away latino votes from democrats. I'm pretty sure if we are citizens today, a very large population would vote for Trump in the next election for the simple reason that he got it done and he's the savior.
Please pass this on to your friend. If he gets on TV again he should make some of these points.
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