Originally Posted by cmeow

Arguably, the democrats took a bigger political loss by enacting DACA via executive action after the vote failed. On top of that, they shutdown the government partially for DACA last year.

If they purposefully intended for the votes to fail, DACA would've never existed.

For one to use an event that happened 8 years ago, while ignoring the more current events, to justify the current sentiment is simply propaganda. It's the same argument that democrats use to have members from the kkk so democrats is still the racist party.

If you say in 2008 the democrats "wanted it to fail", that can be argued. But to say that this is the current democrat's sentiment is wrong as you've ignored recent events. If I tell you someone voted democrat in 2008 but voted republican every single election after that to now, would you still argue that person is a democrat today?

Perhaps it stems from personal anger or something but making these arguments are not logical as it favors old events, ignoring more recent events, in order to make a statement about the current sentiment. At best it's an emotional response, at worst it's malice.

Therefore, such an argument should deserve nothing but *crickets* from the people here. We are in 2019, not in 2008.