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Army extends immigrant recruiting

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05-04-2009, 12:21 AM
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It seems the Army is extending the MAVNI program to the western part of the US & bringing it to Los Angeles,California area.The program was originally only available in the NY,New York area.
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he lanky 19-year-old from South Korea has lived in the Southland since he was 9 years old. He is as comfortable speaking English as his native Korean. And he desperately wants to join the Army.

Late last week, the teenager walked into a recruiting office in an Eagle Rock mall wearing a pendant shaped like a dog tag around his neck. Until recently, local recruiters would have had to turn him away. His student visa would not have qualified him to enlist. Only citizens or permanent residents who carry green cards were eligible to serve.

But starting today, 10 Los Angeles-area Army recruiting offices will begin taking applications from some foreigners who are here on temporary visas or who have been granted asylum.

In all, the pilot program, which was launched in New York in February, seeks to enlist 1,000 military recruits with special language and medical skills, most of whom will join the Army. Response to the program has exceeded expectations, drawing applications from more than 7,000 people around the country, many of them highly educated, defense officials said.

Those who are accepted will get an expedited path to citizenship in return for their service. "Ever since I entered high school, I was waiting for this opportunity," Jason, the 19-year-old aspiring soldier, told recruiters as they helped him prepare documents to submit today. "As soon as it came, I just jumped."


The Army requested that applicants' full names not be used because, in some cases, it could put them or family members at risk in their home countries.

Although the Army has been meeting or exceeding its recruiting goals, defense officials say there is a shortage of soldiers with medical, foreign language and cultural abilities needed in the war on terror and peacekeeping efforts around the world.

"What we're looking for are critical, vital skills," said Naomi Verdugo, assistant deputy for recruiting in the office of the assistant secretary of the Army.

The Army hopes to enlist 333 healthcare professionals, including doctors, dentists, nurses and others. It is also looking for 557 people with any of 35 languages, including Arabic and Yoruba, spoken in West Africa. Spanish is not on the list. An additional 110 slots are earmarked for other services, which have not yet started taking applications for the program....


.....The 107 enlisted so far include 13 California residents, officials said. Less than half came from the New York area, including New Jersey.

Jason was among those who traveled to New York. But he arrived so tired after an overnight flight that he failed to score the minimum 50 points on a sample aptitude test.

By extending the program to Los Angeles, Army officials hope to make it easier for applicants on the West Coast to be considered and to ease the pressure on New York recruiters.

They also want to reach a broader range of language experts. So far, most of the recruits have been Korean, Indian and Chinese language speakers. The Army needs more people with languages used in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran, among others. Only four of the recruits enlisted as Arabic speakers, one speaks Urdu and one speaks Punjabi.

Staff Sgt. Joshua Cannon, who commands the recruiting station where Jason is applying, is pleased to be able to sign up more aspiring Americans. The policy restricting applications to people with green cards has been a source of frustration to local recruiters, who have struggled for years to find qualified applicants in a city with many immigrants, especially when the country is at war.

Cannon said his office had been getting calls about the new program for months. For most of the callers, the biggest draw is the chance to become citizens in as little as six months, he said. The normal naturalization process can take five to 15 years.

To retain their citizenship, participants must honorably complete at least five years of service.


When Jason heard he could apply closer to home, he headed straight over. This time he scored a respectable 67 on the sample aptitude test.

After 10 years of living with the uncertainty of temporary visas, he too is hoping to finally become an American.

His mother, who raised two children alone, never bothered to apply for green cards for the family, so now he faces the possibility of being summoned back to South Korea for mandatory military service.

Jason is also looking for a way to complete his studies at Pasadena City College.

His mother's grocery store is struggling, so he had to defer for two semesters after his first year to help keep the business going. Although his mother worries that Jason could be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan, he will not be dissuaded.

"I would have to go to the army in Korea anyway, so let's make it count for something," he said. "A new life. A new beginning."
Damn,I can't say I blame the guy but I wonder if he gained US citizenship if he would still be required to serve in the South Korea military as he says ?
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05-04-2009, 01:32 AM
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It seems the Army is extending the MAVNI program to the western part of the US & bringing it to Los Angeles,California area.The program was originally only available in the NY,New York area.
Damn,I can't say I blame the guy but I wonder if he gained US citizenship if he would still be required to serve in the South Korea military as he says ?
I think, unless he's still holding his SK citizenship (which many people do hold dual citizenship - which they shouldn't, illegally) then in theory he should.
But if gets USC, why would he holds SKC?

And plus, usually if you get USC, it means you agree to drop SKC.
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i think i can apply for this imma try wish me luck
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05-04-2009, 09:35 AM
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I think, unless he's still holding his SK citizenship (which many people do hold dual citizenship - which they shouldn't, illegally) then in theory he should.
But if gets USC, why would he holds SKC?

And plus, usually if you get USC, it means you agree to drop SKC.
Well there are certain instances where you can have dual citizenship, legally - depending on the rules of the other country, etc.
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05-04-2009, 01:28 PM
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I don't think SK is one of the countries that allows a dual citizenship.
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I don't think SK is one of the countries that allows a dual citizenship.
Exactly,I was wondering if he gained US citizenship would he still be compelled to do military service since he would have to give up his SK citizenship?
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Exactly,I was wondering if he gained US citizenship would he still be compelled to do military service since he would have to give up his SK citizenship?
You people waste your time on the most trivial of crap.
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05-04-2009, 03:26 PM
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FACT
for male citizens of Republic of Korea (South Korea)
one MUST do his military service if one wishes to retain his citizenship.
dual citizenship is allowed but same rule applies.
So... if I become a USC, but still wishes to keep my Korean citizenship as well, I have to go back and do my service for Korea as well. Imagine serving in two different armies.
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well if he gets US citizenship, I believe he has to drop the Korean citizenship. Dual citizenship is allowed up to age 18 but after that they have to choose. I have a lot of Korean friends who grew up here who has dual citizenship but had to choose at age 18. So if this lucky guy gets citizenship he would have to drop it and as American citizen the Korean government wouldn't be able to draft him. If it was green card or anything else Korean government would seize him at the airport the moment he arrives in Korea and take him to the army. Oh gosh how I would take that opportunity to serve in the army... for citizenship.
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You know what's ridiculous about this program? A person who's been in the US for 5 years on a student visa can qualify but a person who's been in the US for 22 years scored above 80 on the ASBAB does not qualify because he/she is a visa overstay. Tell me please who's more American! and has more right to be a US citizen. I tried apply to the program a few months back and got turned down, but found that my friend who came to the US as a college student got accepted. Just doesn't seem fair.
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