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Luis Gutierrez Interview...

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09-22-2010, 01:56 PM
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Hi Guys, I just wanted to share this interview by Luis Gutierrez after the defeat of the bill.

Listening closely as he says that the Dream Act cant come up as a stand alone bill. I wonder why ...

http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Co...?audioID=44559
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09-22-2010, 02:30 PM
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sigh, we lost one more time. do you guy really think Sen Reid will bring up the Dream Act again after election? and he is right, and he said republicans don't want to deal with any immigration issue. they want us all deport!
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09-22-2010, 02:43 PM
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sigh, we lost one more time. do you guy really think Sen Reid will bring up the Dream Act again after election? and he is right, and he said republicans don't want to deal with any immigration issue. they want us all deport!
They have to deal with it before the 2012 Presidential Elections!! Last year the Republican lost Florida if they lose Texas they will never win the presidency.
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09-22-2010, 03:12 PM
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He doesn't sound disappointed, at all, because what he wants is CIR. He stated on the record last month that the President told him that the would do "something" in September. And now we know that the "something" was a show pretending to try to get DA passed. It was all a carrot-on-a-stick for the immigrant community. This is a lame thing to get more Hispanic votes. Which I guarantee you they won't , as they guaranteed to doom DA by not securing the votes beforehand.

Well they've achieved nothing for the last 10 years. In all seriousness, if we have to struggle with the party (Dems) that's *supposed* to help us; then explain to us why shouldn't we negotiate with the party (Reps) that *makes* things happen? And to all of you who claim that after the elections, there's a chance that they will attach DA to the bill, and debate the Defense bill...The elections are Nov.2nd. They -at Majority leader Reid's request- don't return to the Senate until Nov.15. Next week is Thanksgiving 'recess'. Then they return a couple days in December and see you all until January. You cannot guarantee passage on legislation whose passage you aren't securing.

Durbin and Reid knew that the Defense bill wouldn't pass; up until the very morning of the vote, they went on record to say they didn't have a whip count.

And to prove my point that they never intended to pass it, here is the president today:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...rm-immigration


President Obama suggested that he would not pursue reforms to the immigration system through regulations or other administrative policies.

"You know, it is a very difficult thing to do administratively, and because we want comprehensive reform, and because we want the Dream Act, what we don't want to do is give an excuse to the opposition to say, 'Obama's trying to do an end-run around Congress,'" Obama said during an interview on Telemundo when asked what options he has to pursue immigration reform.

Obama stressed the need for consensus, though, a week after calling out Republican senators who'd favored comprehensive immigration reform under President George W. Bush, but who have now shifted to oppose similar legislation.

"We've got to build
a consensus around this country," said the president. "I think we can."

Not even he can believe the last part about waiting to get reform until concensus is built with Republicans. Next year is campaign time for his re-election; he knows that if CIR is passed, the Republican nominee will too use it against him. So, where does it go from there?
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09-22-2010, 03:43 PM
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True that Dems are playing politics, but at least they are trying or pretending to care - giving room for hope. The Reps come out and say that they want us deported - they are frank about their intolerance and oppression. I rather have the first, rather than the last. At least we have some hope that way. If I could vote, I would vote Democrat regardless of the games Reid and company are playing - and one day, when we can vote and make our voices heard, we will let the Reps know we remember what is happening.
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09-22-2010, 03:59 PM
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i totally hate this country, because Dream Act is just little bill for young people, and it is unfair to people like us. sigh
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09-23-2010, 01:13 AM
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i totally hate this country, because Dream Act is just little bill for young people, and it is unfair to people like us. sigh
Don't hate the country hate the intolerant republicans.
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09-23-2010, 05:02 AM
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I never thought I would use this backwards, but "don't hate the game, hate the players!"
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