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Bob Goodlatte: Dreamers Should Not Get A Path To Citizenship

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08-20-2013, 06:06 PM
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Even though he is leading an effort to draft legislation that would legalize undocumented young people, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said Monday that they should not be given a new pathway to citizenship, calling into question whether the tentatively named KIDS Act under way will win any support from Democrats.

Here's the comment on Dreamers to conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, as flagged by Salon's Brian Beutler:
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If you were to do something, I would start first of all with children who were brought here illegally by their parents. They’ve grown up here. They’ve been educated here. They are ready to face the world and they have no documents. I think there’s a more compelling argument to be made for them. But, even for them, I would say that they get a legal status in the United States and not a pathway to citizenship that is created especially for them. In other words, they get that legal status if they have an employer who says I’ve got a job which I can’t find a U.S. citizen and I want to petition for them, ah, they can do that, but I wouldn’t give them the pathway to a Green Card and ultimately citizenship based simply on their entering the country illegally.
Republicans have said that the bill currently being drafted will differ from the Dream Act, and Goodlatte's comments clarified what those differences might be. The Dream Act would allow undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children -- often called Dreamers -- to enter a special process to become legal residents and eventually citizens. The bill most recently went for a vote in 2010, and was opposed by most Republicans, including Goodlatte and his fellow KIDS Act drafter Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

Reform advocates argue that legalization without a special pathway to citizenship is not enough because many people would be excluded from the existing avenues, as Goodlatte pointed out Monday. Democrats have criticized Republicans for planning to address legalization for Dreamers but not the wider immigrant population, and it's tough to imagine them going for a bill without a path to citizenship for even young undocumented immigrants.

Republicans seemed to have warmed more recently to the idea of a path to citizenship for Dreamers, particularly compared to proposals by Democrats and a bipartisan group in the Senate that would allow a broader swath of the undocumented population to eventually become citizens. Goodlatte repeatedly has decried a "special pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants generally.

On Monday evening, he told constituents at a town hall that few details have been worked out on the KIDS Act so far.

"We will have a bill introduced, I'm sure soon, but so far there's a lot of different ideas but not consensus about what it should be. Once we have that, I think it will be introduced," Goodlatte told a Dreamer, adding he will then hold a hearing to discuss the bill and see if it can win support from Republicans. "I think there's a decent chance that we will take something up there, but we have to have enough consensus within the majority and hopefully get some support from the minority party as well."
Lol,The Kids Act is not gonna get through the House if these are the details concerning such a bill.You're not gonna get enough House Democrats to go along with such a plan.

Dreamers cannot join the military[due to security clearance] or attend certain college programs without US residency of sorts.
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08-20-2013, 06:20 PM
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"Good" "latte" i wonder whats good in that "latte". gottta be some strong shit thats messing up his ability to think straight. he needs some dreamers in his doorstep with cantaloupe calves to balance his judgement. our shit aint that strong.
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This guy is just simpleminded and very moronic.
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If all other laws stay the same, it's damn near impossible to get a work sponsorship now days given the numbers, even if Dreamers get a college degree like they're supposed to under the original Dream Act.

Still, I'd take it if it would apply to my age which it won't. If this thing does pass which it won't, it would be fun to watch you guys apply for it and complain about it though.
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The key issue isn't about getting citizenship. It's about getting a secure legal status. The permanent right to adobe and work are the key issues.
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i wanna join military plzzz thats all i want.
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Man PHUK all these Republicans. They still don't have a "consensus"?? How effin stupid is this? What a way of killing immigration reform...without even touching it! P*ssies. I'm going to say this again. The ENTIRE country wants it. The PRES wants it. The SENATE wants it. BIG BUSINESS wants it. ECONOMISTS and LAWYERS want it...but about 5-10 old white bastard congressmen don't want it and they most likely will have their way. Sad..If CIR fails, there will be tears of blood.
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These GOP guys need to come out of the closet if not they'll be outed! Truth is they don't want to do anything about immigration besides more enforcement and as Gov Romney would describe it make it so hard people have no choice but to "self deport." Their GOP colleagues in the senate started discussing this issue after the elections last year and got it done in about 8 months. They on the other hand have been having "discussions" for apparently over 4 years and STILL DO NOT HAVE A CONSENSUS???
Whats amazing about these geniuses is they are allowing the "Small America" politicians from Alabama, Kansas, etc... dictate the path of their party on a NATIONAL issue. What are your reps from the big cities in Texas, California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona saying? Ok so California is not a battle ground state but you get my point. These numb-nuts are working on pushing their party farther into irrelevance. No one gives a you know what about the "Hastert Rule!" Funny how they keep saying the the senate bill wont pass in the house. If that is really true why don't you put it up for vote and lets see what happens. I'd like to see your GOP friends from Texas, Florida and Nevada vote against it. There is almost no reasoning with these "elected" officials from the GOP.
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Republicans need to rethink their logic because to me it seems that passing a bill that doesn't include a pathway to a green card is going to give them the most grief from both sides.

Here are their options:

Do nothing on immigration. The hardcore Teapublicans, angry old white guys, and xenophobes will like it which may help extend their inevitable extinction for another election cycle or two locally. On the other hand, this will ensure they will not get any immigrant votes nationally for not only the next few election cycles, but anger us enough to where when we do become citizens, we won't ever forget what they did and no matter what else they bring to the table, we remember they wanted to destroy our lives and won't vote for them under any circumstances. Moderate Republicans realize this.

Pass the Senate Bill or something close to it with a pathway to citizenshipHardcore Republicans, angry old white guys, teabaggers, etc. will bitch and cry and vow to go start their own party and oust any Republican who voted for it. They may lose a few people in the south. On the other hand, from this point on, immigration is no longer an issue that the Democrats have the higher moral ground on and most immigrants who are citizens will vote on other issues. Sure, some of us will take longer to warm up to them, but by the time we're citizens, in 10 years or whatever, it's all water under the bridge. In my opinion, this is the best option for all involved.

Try a half-assed piece meal approach without a pathway to citizenship Hardcore Republicans, Teabaggers, angry old white men will still hate it and call it amnesty so they lose any short term gains. They also will lose much long term gain because immigrant communities realize this won't fix the situation fully so they'll continue to vote Democrat nationally so in an election cycle or two, with a full House and Senate, a much softer immigration bill will pass to provide the pathway to citizenship. This option still favors Democrats slightly.
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