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Interesting development in Texas vs United States

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06-05-2015, 04:31 PM
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By JOSH GERSTEIN | 6/4/15 4:03 PM EDT
A little more than a week after denying President Barack Obama's effort to move forward with controversial executive actions on immigration, a federal appeals court has ordered both sides in the case to file new legal briefs.

The order Thursday from the 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals asked the Justice Department and the 26 states challenging Obama's moves to file legal briefs by June 18 offering views on the opinions a three-judge panel issued May 26. That panel split, 2-1, rejecting the Obama Administration's request for an emergency stay that would allow immigration authorities to move forward with immigration policy changes blocked since February by a district court's injunction.

The 5th Circuit has announced that a three-judge panel will hear arguments in New Orleans on July 10 on the merits of the current appeal: whether U.S. District Court Judge Andrew Hanen's preliminary injunction should be upheld or lifted. The injunction bars the Department of Homeland Security from implementing Obama's plan to expand a program offering quasi-legal status and work permits to illegal immigrants who arrived in the U.S. as children and to start a new program for illegal immigrants who are parents of U.S. citizens.

Some immigration advocates earlier expressed concern that the three-judge panel that considered the stay issue might try to tie the hands of the three-judge panel that will hear the merits of the injunction.

However, supporters of Obama's actions said Thursday they were heartened by wording in the new order that indicates the so-called merits panel does not consider itself obligated to adopt the reasoning of the panel that decided against a stay.

"This might indicate that the merits panel does not regard itself as being bound by the reasoning of the May 26 motions panel decision," said Stephen Legomsky, a Washington University in St. Louis law professor.

"I think that 5th circuit precedent pretty much gives the judges who’ll hear the final appeal of the preliminary injunction the freedom to make whatever decision they deem appropriate, regardless of the motions panel's refusal to lift Hanen’s order blocking the immigration executive actions," immigration attorney David Leopold said. "Here the motions panel said, in effect, that the government was unlikely to succeed on the merits of its appeal -- but it didn't in fact make any conclusion about the merits of the preliminary injunction—e.g. whether Hanen got it right or wrong. [Last week's majority] opinion might be highly persuasive to the panel that hears the final appeal in July, but strictly speaking I don’t think it binds the panel that will hear the full appeal."

The new order refers to a 1997 case in which the 5th Circuit held that a merits panel wasn't bound by an earlier motions panel, particularly on the question of jurisdiction.

The new order does seem to assuage another worry some immigrant rights advocates had expressed that the same panel that heard the stay issue might wind up ruling on the substance of the dispute as well. The order doesn't name the panel considering the merits of the appeal, but wouldn't make much sense if it was the same set of judges.

The Obama Administration passed up a chance to ask the Supreme Court to issue the stay the 5th Circuit refused to grant last week. The White House's best hope in the short-term may be to get a Democratic-leaning panel for the argument next month. The odds don't favor that with the 5th Circuit's active bench split 2-1 Republican versus Democrat, making it the most conservative appeals court in the country.

Spokespeople for the Justice Department and for the Texas Attorney General's office, which is leading the lawsuit against the immigration moves, did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the new order.

In a somewhat related development, the House voted Wednesday in support of an amendment that would bar funding for the Justice Department's defense of the pending appeal as well as the underlying lawsuit.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...on-208284.html
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06-05-2015, 06:38 PM
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Beat me to it. I have no idea whether this is good or bad, but at least we're still in the news!
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At least we know it will be different panel of judges
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Beat me to it. I have no idea whether this is good or bad, but at least we're still in the news!
I am optimistic about the new panel. If one of their goals is to maintain the integrity of the court, then we have a shot at the injunction being lifted based on the Supreme Court's ruling on the APA and the same district court's ruling in MS's DACA lawsuit.
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The new 3 Judge panel will also be 2 GOP and 1 Democrat?
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The new 3 Judge panel will also be 2 GOP and 1 Democrat?
It's all random, but the ratio of the court is 2:1 in favor of Republicans so on average, it will be 2 Republicans and 1 Democrat. It can also easily be 3 Republicans or if we win the lottery, all 3 Democrat.
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This entire lawsuit is like down syndrome jousting. Amusing but whoever wins is still a retard.


Instead of trying to actively close the case after the Supreme Court decision they've been only fighting the injunction. They made a very weak case from start to finish and I can't think of a good reason why. Only reason why I can think of is just that Obama is fucking with literally everyone, other democrats, us, and the republitards.
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It's all random, but the ratio of the court is 2:1 in favor of Republicans so on average, it will be 2 Republicans and 1 Democrat. It can also easily be 3 Republicans or if we win the lottery, all 3 Democrat.
Oh ok. It will be a drawing?

I wonder if they can just start the DACA Exp since it is an extension of the initial DACA from 2o12 and deal with DAPA later.
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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...entirely-dead/
Kind of interesting...in the Texas Abortion clinic case that was also a 5th circuit case, the case was assigned to 3 GWB appointees. The delusional optimistic side of me wants to think that since that case had 3 Republican judges, and our case had 2 Republican judges, maybe the probability of getting more Democrat judges in the July 10th case might be slightly better.
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Anything new this week?
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