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2 Texas Democrats won’t likely sign discharge petition.

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Seeking to unify Democrats around the immigration debate, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that forcing votes to protect "Dreamers" is no rubber stamp for funding President Trump’s U.S.–Mexico border wall.

A pair of Texas Democrats from border districts — Reps. Filemon Vela and Vicente González — are withholding their support for a Republican procedural gambit, known as a discharge petition, designed to compel votes on four bills rescuing the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which allowed certain immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children to work and go to school.

The holdouts are concerned that the petition — which would launch a “Queen of the Hill” process pitting the four DACA bills against each other — would lead to the adoption of legislation that would ultimately fund new border wall construction.

Their opposition, if it persists, would force GOP immigration reformers to find more Republicans willing to endorse the petition. That goal is a tall order, since signing on requires bucking the wishes of the party brass.

The bill widely viewed as the most popular of the four — a proposal sponsored by Reps. Will Hurd (R-Texas) and Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) — does not explicitly fund new wall construction. But some Democrats say the $25 billion it includes for border security could ultimately lead to such construction.

“Upon reviewing the legislation, we have determined that while the measure may not overtly direct the construction of new miles of physical wall in furtherance of the President’s proposal, it could easily be interpreted as doing so,” Vela wrote in a “Dear Colleague” letter, which he and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) sent to fellow Democrats in February.

Thompson is the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee.

Pelosi this week is disputing that interpretation, promoting the Hurd-Aguilar bill as a viable bipartisan compromise to protect the Dreamers — without new wall construction. She predicted that virtually every Democrat will endorse the discharge petition, and suggested the holdouts simply need “clarification” of what the Hurd-Aguilar bill would do.

“I think we have 99 percent of our members to be signing on. And we’ll have conversations with the others about what the equities are,” Pelosi said during her weekly press briefing in the Capitol.

“I think there is some clarification that is needed about what actually is in the bill. They’re saying it’s a wall, and it’s not a wall.”

Pelosi said she’s confident that, if the Republicans win enough signatures, Democrats would take the petition across the finish line.

“The issue is getting the Republican signatures on the bill,” she said.

The Queen of the Hill resolution, sponsored by Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.), would force floor votes on four separate DACA bills: the Hurd-Aguilar legislation; the Dream Act, which is favored by liberals; a bill sponsored by Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), which is favored by conservatives; and a yet-unspecified proposal to be chosen by Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

The discharge petition, sponsored by Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.), needs 25 Republican signatures to reach 218, assuming all Democrats eventually sign on. Twenty Republicans have endorsed it so far, but Ryan and other GOP leaders are urging others to refrain from doing so, warning that the strategy empowers the minority Democrats.

Republican leaders huddled Wednesday evening in Ryan’s office with centrist immigration reformers, including Curbelo and Denham, and then with a separate group of hard-line conservatives immediately afterward. The conservatives oppose the discharge petition and are seeking procedural ways to sink it.

Ryan is urging patience, saying he wants to come up with a bipartisan DACA bill that can pass both chambers and win the signature of Trump, who has demanded billions of dollars in new border wall funding.

Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), the minority whip, said this week that Democratic leaders are open to accepting new wall funding as part of a compromise to protect the Dreamers.

Though not a new position — many Democrats had voted for more than $1 billion for new border security as part of the March omnibus package — it drew an outcry from Vela, who has vowed in the past that “under no circumstances will I vote for a bill that provides a penny for border wall funding.”

Pelosi said she hasn’t been in talks with Ryan or other GOP leaders about the specifics of a bipartisan deal to rescue DACA, saying “the beauty” of the current discharge-petition effort is that it’s being championed by rank-and-file Republicans.

“The Speaker should take control — maintain control — of the floor by just bringing the bill up,” she said.

“But that’s their own negotiation over there. I’m not involved in it.”


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So much for that effort lmao.
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Hopefully, no other Democrats will follow the same path.
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7 Republicans needed
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Democrats will fuk us like always. I actually think passing a bill is on the Republican's interest and not the Democrats. If a bill passes, Trump gets credit; If they put a bill on the floor and Democratic votes are lacking, Republicans get to keep Congress.
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Democrats will fuk us like always
Not great at math are you?
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Not great at math are you?
https://www.politico.com/story/2010/...-senate-046573

They let us down when it counts. I can use their rhetoric to wipe my ass with it
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when it counted they passed the Dream Act in the House with 218 Democratic votes.

the Senate counterpart couldnt do so because all Republicans all voted against it.

their rhetoric pushed Obama to introduce DACA 2 years later.

but whatever, who gives af what these politicians do at this point... we been waiting for too damn long.

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Democrats will fuk us like always. I actually think passing a bill is on the Republican's interest and not the Democrats. If a bill passes, Trump gets credit; If they put a bill on the floor and Democratic votes are lacking, Republicans get to keep Congress.
Like it or not Democrats are the only hope we have. Republicans have been a roadblock to your live, they don't want us here.
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