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Immigration talks in Congress hinge on DACA citizenship.

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05-24-2018, 03:35 PM
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(CNN) Talks between Republicans across the political spectrum trying to reach a potential immigration deal that would unite the conference have reached a crossroads — and once again it has to do with citizenship.
Lawmakers left town for a weeklong recess on Thursday without fully resolving the issue, but not before two more Republicans signed a petition that could force the House to vote on an immigration package and that has already brought negotiators to the table to come up with an alternative path.
By Thursday morning, the petition stood just five signatures short of the 218 that will circumvent House Republican leadership entirely and bring the issue straight to the floor.

In the meantime, members and sources familiar with the closed-door negotiations described the skeleton of a deal emerging -- but one that will only proceed if a resolution on citizenship is reached.

Circling a deal
At the moment, Republican leaders -- who have been squeezed by insurrections on either flank of their members -- are trying to find a sweet spot between moderates and conservatives in the GOP conference on what would be a permanent solution for recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which President Donald Trump has ended but whose ultimate fate has been tied up in the court system.

The DACA program protects young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children and most of whom have never known another home besides the US. Conservatives have long argued that they are opposed to any kind of "special path" to citizenship for DACA recipients, as they put it. The vast majority of DACA recipients have no way to become citizens without procedural hoops like leaving the country for more than a decade in the hopes of being able to apply to get back in. Meanwhile, moderates -- who are just a handful of signatures from forcing a wide-ranging immigration debate next month -- are insistent that DACA recipients can have a path to citizenship eventually.
"For us, a bridge into the legal immigration system for young immigrants brought to the country as children through no fault of their own is non-negotiable, and if some colleagues want to continue insisting on denying that, well, there will be no agreement," said Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican who has been leading the moderate group's efforts on the issue.

Curbelo's partner California Rep. Jeff Denham said the group reached "an agreement in principle" in a Wednesday night meeting with leadership, moderates and conservatives, and Curbelo said there was "a loose framework of an agreement." But, he added, he isn't confident yet as "details tend to destroy agreements."

Citizenship the hurdle
According to sources familiar with the negotiations, the meetings have resulted in a clear crossroads over the path to citizenship. During the meeting Wednesday night, GOP leaders were still trying to gauge whether the House Freedom Caucus would support a plan that would offer a bridge for DACA recipients to apply for green cards. Then, once a DACA recipient had a green card they could eventually apply for citizenship like other immigrants.
Talks are unlikely to move forward substantially before that issue is resolved, and it is unlikely that a final decision will come before lawmakers return from their Memorial Day break, which started Thursday.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/polit...ess/index.html
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those mofos have the day off ? my godd
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Who cares what the Freedom Caucus wants? Keep the bill simple; wall money + DREAM Act (maybe end Diversity Lottery program) and you don't need them to pass the bill.
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Who cares what the Freedom Caucus wants? Keep the bill simple; wall money + DREAM Act (maybe end Diversity Lottery program) and you don't need them to pass the bill.
Yeah not sure why they are continuing to kiss their right wing asses
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I feel like they are fogetting that they will need Dem votes in the Senate
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Just give us green cards mane
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Who cares what the Freedom Caucus wants? Keep the bill simple; wall money + DREAM Act (maybe end Diversity Lottery program) and you don't need them to pass the bill.
Agreed they're making it harder for them and for us
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Make it 4 year military or 4 year college degree to get citizenship

Those who cant stay on GC until able to fulfill the requirement
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I don't think you guys get it. They don't actually want a bill that will pass and get signed by Trump.

This is the ideal scenario for GOP:
They pass some Shitlatte variant with barely enough majority Rs then it goes to the senate and fails by 1 vote. Next, they go on TV and say, OMG we tried to save the #Dreamers and #TheWall but the Deeemmooocrats! didn't vote for it, pls vote midterms thx.

Note, DNC wants the same thing as well, (that's why DA failed in the senate where there was a 5 member D majority and it passed the house under NP) they 100%$ want DACA to remain an issue and stay in the courts as long as possible because immigration is a fundraising cash cow for them. It's akin to H1B abuse where your employer subtly threatens you and keeps your wages low because they know you are stuck.
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I don't think you guys get it. They don't actually want a bill that will pass and get signed by Trump.

This is the ideal scenario for GOP:
They pass some Shitlatte variant with barely enough majority Rs then it goes to the senate and fails by 1 vote. Next, they go on TV and say, OMG we tried to save the #Dreamers and #TheWall but the Deeemmooocrats! didn't vote for it, pls vote midterms thx.

Note, DNC wants the same thing as well, (that's why DA failed in the senate where there was a 5 member D majority and it passed the house under NP) they 100%$ want DACA to remain an issue and stay in the courts as long as possible because immigration is a fundraising cash cow for them. It's akin to H1B abuse where your employer subtly threatens you and keeps your wages low because they know you are stuck.
So by that logic DACA will never be fixed. Ever
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