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DAP Forums > DREAM Act > The News Room

3 Teens Killed in Mexico, 2 of Them US Citizens

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02-08-2011, 10:59 AM
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02-09-2011, 02:52 AM
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First, how is this related to the Dream Act?
Why is this in the Dream Act News Room?

Is this even related to immigration reform in general?
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02-10-2011, 01:40 AM
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Americans being killed on that border has everything in the world to do with the Dream Act. Because the opposition to its first priority is to have a secure border if there is not a secure border there will be no movement on immigration. Its only been repeated a billion times. I hope the military is sent to the border then and only then will people start thinking the border is secure an can move on to immigration.
Even if you 'secure the border', events like this will still continue to happen.
Why?
Securing the border has nothing to do with whether violence happens in nearby cities or not.
Securing the border means preventing people from crossing over to the US.
That's it!

It does NOT mean that the US government will go into Mexican cities and provide police services.

Those teenagers were unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. The gunmen probably went trying to kill the owners/management of the car dealership. Perhaps, it was a case of extortion where an organized crime group tries to extort 'protection money' from a local business.

Also, Republicans know that it is practically impossible to 'secure the border' 100%. The costs of achieving that goal would far exceed any benefits gained from achieving that goal. That is why they promise to deal with immigration reform only after the border is 'completely secure', because they know it will never be 100% secure.
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02-10-2011, 01:50 PM
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Even if you 'secure the border', events like this will still continue to happen.
Why?
Securing the border has nothing to do with whether violence happens in nearby cities or not.
Securing the border means preventing people from crossing over to the US.
That's it!

It does NOT mean that the US government will go into Mexican cities and provide police services.

Those teenagers were unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. The gunmen probably went trying to kill the owners/management of the car dealership. Perhaps, it was a case of extortion where an organized crime group tries to extort 'protection money' from a local business.

Also, Republicans know that it is practically impossible to 'secure the border' 100%. The costs of achieving that goal would far exceed any benefits gained from achieving that goal. That is why they promise to deal with immigration reform only after the border is 'completely secure', because they know it will never be 100% secure.
ditto.
move it plz.
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02-10-2011, 02:35 PM
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I hope the military is sent to the border then and only then will people start thinking the border is secure an can move on to immigration.
Can we send the military en masse to the border? I thought there was some major law against using the American military for large scale operations within the country. The current way the military is being used is that large numbers are pledged to make voters happy and feel safe, but they don't arrive or they get used to backfill admin positions.

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It does NOT mean that the US government will go into Mexican cities and provide police services.
Exactly right, the US will throw lots of money at it though! I think France used the guise of restoring order to invade Mexico (protect the pastries!). I feel bad for the working class Mexicans in the border area. It's like damed if you do, damned if you don't. You could get shot/decapitated if you stay, or you could have bad things happen when you try and cross the border.
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