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Mexican President: US flooding border cities with criminals, fueling violence

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10-21-2011, 11:09 PM
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MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexican President Felipe Calderon accused the United States on Thursday of dumping criminals at the border because it is cheaper than prosecuting them, and said the practice has fueled violence in Mexico's border areas.

U.S. officials earlier this week reported a record number of deportations in fiscal year 2011, and said the number of deportees with criminal convictions had nearly doubled since 2008.

"There are many factors in the violence that is being experienced in some Mexican border cities, but one of those is that the American authorities have gotten into the habit of simply deporting 60 (thousand) or 70,000 migrants per year to cities like Ciudad Juarez or Tijuana," Calderon told an immigration conference.

Among these deportees "there are many who really are criminals, who have committed some crime and it is simply cheaper to leave them on the Mexican side of the border than to prosecute them, as they should do, to see whether they are guilty or not," Calderon said. "And obviously, they quickly link up with criminal networks on the border."

On Tuesday, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton said his agency deported nearly 400,000 individuals during the fiscal year that ended in September, the largest number of removals in the agency's history.

Morton announced the 2011 numbers in Washington, saying about 55 percent of those deported had felony or misdemeanor convictions. Officials said the number of those convicted of crimes was up 89 percent from 2008. The vast majority of migrants, and deportees, are from Mexico.

There are no records to substantiate whether U.S. authorities opt for deporting undocumented Mexican nationals who have committed crimes instead of prosecuting them in the U.S.

The U.S. embassy declined to comment on Calderon's speech.

When Mexicans without documents finish their prison terms in the United States, they're bused to the border and freed. Mexican officials in Tijuana have said some deportees turn to petty crime but couldn't say if they were feeding drug cartels.

The Associated Press in the past year has repeatedly asked the Mexican government to document the impact of leaving deportees with criminal records at the border. The AP filed a freedom of information request asking Mexico's Foreign Ministry how many times the U.S. had notified Mexico it was deporting a convicted criminal and how many people arrested for drug trafficking in Mexico had prior records in the U.S. The foreign ministry said it didn't have such numbers. The office of Calderon's former security spokesman Alejandro Poire did not respond to similar queries.

The United States and Mexico are experimenting with new methods of alerting Mexico about deportations, and U.S. officials say they warn Mexico when former inmates are considered particularly dangerous.

Mexicans with criminal records in the U.S. can't be detained in Mexico if they have not violated the law in their home country, and some Mexican border cities complain they don't have any easy way to run criminal background checks on deported inmates to see if they have pending charges.

One deported criminal, Martin Estrada Luna, is accused of becoming a leader of a cell of the Zetas drug cartel in the border state of Tamaulipas just 18 months after he was deported from the United States. Estrada, who had a long rap sheet of mostly theft and property crimes in Washington state, is now in custody in Mexico City, where he is accused for masterminding the killing of more than 250 people.

Calderon also lashed out at what he called "absurd" and "irrational" immigration laws in the United States.

"To the extent to which they continue to put absurd curbs on migration, to the degree to which they continue to persecute migrants in the United States in an irrational way that sometimes violates their human rights, in that measure American society will continue to lose competitiveness..." he said.

That was an apparent reference to tough immigration laws like the one implemented in Alabama in late September. While courts have blocked some provisions of the law, judges let stand provisions that allow police to check a person's immigration status during a traffic stop.

Under the measure, courts also can't enforce contracts involving illegal immigrants, such as leases, and it is a felony for an illegal immigrant to do business with the state for basic things like getting a driver's license.

Calderon said immigration shouldn't be seen as a threat or invasion; he noted that net migration of Mexicans to the United States is approaching zero, as fewer people leave and more come back.

Rafael Fernandez de Castro, head of the International Relations studies at the Monterrey Technological Institute, told the conference that about 200,000 Mexicans per year are returning to their country, and that Mexican schools are facing a new problem: tens of thousands of Mexican children are coming back each year with little or no Spanish.

"In the last couple of school years in Mexico, literally tens of thousands of children have turned up with last names like Sanchez, Fernandez, or Hinojosa and, it must be said, they don't speak Spanish, they speak English," Fernandez de Castro said. "We have to ask California and Texas how they managed to integrate these Mexican children who went to the United States and didn't speak English."
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10-22-2011, 01:41 AM
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I can't say I sympathize or agree with Calderon on this one. The US has a pretty good record of incarcerating illegals w/criminal backgrounds before dumping them across. If he wants to fix the problem he should coordinate with US officials to repatriate them (the ones w/criminal backgrounds) to their native cities or states and prevent de facto criminal colonies along the border.
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Yeah, or he could work to find ways to reintegrate them or get them to their hometowns
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That president is lacking. He should accept them by placing the criminal deportees straight to a Mexican jail and see how long they last there.
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That president is lacking. He should accept them by placing the criminal deportees straight to a Mexican jail and see how long they last there.
that wouldn't exactly be fair.
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10-22-2011, 01:29 PM
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Well yeah what are you going to do if they haven't committed crimes in Mexico
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Left Mexico a criminal; returns to Mexico a criminal= Straight ticket to prison.

Left Mexico an immigrant in need; returned to Mexico a criminal= Mexican citizen; American criminal.

This is a tough one if the person has lived mostly in the U.S. or from a very young age. If someone learns to be a criminal in this country, then he or she is our criminal. Until recently, the network of drugs, money and arms wasn't available to the average citizen in Mexico; but the average criminal in the U.S. can easily access those three. Mexico has now been infected with the same drugs-money-guns virus that the U.S. created, but without any of the safety nets needed to protect citizens in place.
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i don't see where you guys are coming from. The crime was punished States sides, I doubt very much what Calderon is saying is true (that justice is being bypassed and these guys are simply being deported [American citizen victims wouldn't have that]). I don't see why a guy with criminal history having paid his dues should be incarcerated if he hasn't committed crimes in Mexico. If he returns to his life of 'evil' in Mexico, yeah then expect to be punished.
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this reminds me of what happened to a coworker. He had a brother who was in jail here and then he got deported, and while he was in mexico, he killed his other brother with a machete...
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10-24-2011, 09:40 PM
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If a crime was comitted in a country -- regardless of citizenship. Wouldn't you have to be convicted in that country? So, if you commited the crime in America, why do you have to be convicted in Mexico if the crime (whatever it may be) was not made in Mexico?

Basically, I think the criminal should be charged according to law. Why does the criminal have to "double-dip"? If they did the crime in America but not in Mexico then they should do their time in America.
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