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WASHINGTON (AP) — – The GOP-led House approved a Homeland Security spending bill that includes a provision barring Immigration and Customs Enforcement from providing abortions for undocumented immigrant detainees, a measure that has little chance of surviving in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

The measure, proposed by Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Ala., would block ICE from using agency funding to provide abortion services for detainees except in the case of rape, incest or if there life of the mother would be endangered.

The provision was attached to a $46 billion Homeland Security spending bill approved on a party-line 234-182 vote.
Barbara Gonzalez, an ICE spokeswoman, said the agency has not paid for abortion services since its 2003 creation.

The agency's policy on abortion services is the same as the Justice Department's rule for the Bureau of Prisons, which restricts access to those services except in cases of rape, incest or if the life or the mother is in danger.

Though the provision isn't likely to become law, its approval in the Republican-controlled House does send a political message in an election year when abortion, health care and reproductive rights have become issues.
Last month a proposed ban on gender-based abortion failed by 20 votes in the House. That bill also had little chance of survival in the Senate. The vote was seen as an effort by both sides made an appeal for women's votes.

The House on Thursday night also approved a provision to the Homeland Security bill that would block spending for ICE's newly created public advocate, whose office fields complaints and questions about immigration policy. Republicans have criticized the appointment, saying that the Obama administration was putting undocumented immigrants head of the interests of Americans.

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That's odd. Considering all the complaining that comes from the right about "all them illegals and anchor babies," I did not expect this . . .
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That's odd. Considering all the complaining that comes from the right about "all them illegals and anchor babies," I did not expect this . . .
It makes perfect sense with their line of thinking. They're fiscal hawks and thus want to deny undocumented women basic reproductive rights in order to save potentially a couple of million dollars of year all while never wanting to even legalize the undocumented child born here.
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It makes perfect sense with their line of thinking. They're fiscal hawks and thus want to deny undocumented women basic reproductive rights in order to save potentially a couple of million dollars of year all while never wanting to even legalize the undocumented child born here.
Birthright citizenship applies to everyone regardless of the parents legal status.
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Birthright citizenship applies to everyone regardless of the parents legal status.
See, that's what I am curious about. If some children are born in detention centers, are they USCs? I say yes. Unless, someone with some strong legal background wants to enlighten me on the scenario.
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I don't know if you all see this. They are slowly taking out basic human rights for all of us so that no immigrant will dare consider hopping the fence or coming here illegally. They are making our lives a living hell so that we all just go home.

While all of this happens what does Obama do?.........

I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 5 years or so they cut off access and other basic human needs for anyone illegal.

It's quite pathetic that not more than 50 years ago in this very same country it was color that defined what you can do and you couldn't do.

History repeats itself except instead of color its digits.
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See, that's what I am curious about. If some children are born in detention centers, are they USCs? I say yes. Unless, someone with some strong legal background wants to enlighten me on the scenario.
They definitely are, but it makes no difference for proceedings.
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It makes perfect sense with their line of thinking. They're fiscal hawks and thus want to deny undocumented women basic reproductive rights in order to save potentially a couple of million dollars of year all while never wanting to even legalize the undocumented child born here.
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Birthright citizenship applies to everyone regardless of the parents legal status.

I think he is referring to their effort to overturn birthright citizenship. We all know birthright citizenship still holds...
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I think he is referring to their effort to overturn birthright citizenship. We all know birthright citizenship still holds...
Yeah I was, sorry for that, it came out wrong. We all have our blank moments.
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I don't know if you all see this. They are slowly taking out basic human rights for all of us so that no immigrant will dare consider hopping the fence or coming here illegally. They are making our lives a living hell so that we all just go home.

While all of this happens what does Obama do?.........

I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 5 years or so they cut off access and other basic human needs for anyone illegal.

It's quite pathetic that not more than 50 years ago in this very same country it was color that defined what you can do and you couldn't do.

History repeats itself except instead of color its digits.
Very true point. The republicans, or at least the far right immigration restrictionist wing of the party has basically been inspired by the self-deportation consensus and it's worked in combination with the current economic stagnation very well as a tool to not only frighten off prospective undocumented immigrants but also undocumented immigrants currently in the country. As for if they would cut off even more basic rights, do not be shocked if that happens. All around us we see the crumbling of the undocumented immigrant rights movement, it needs a breakthrough either this year or never.
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