Harry Reid says immigration bill on floor next week

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ate-92187.html

Lets do this

So vote on Monday?

I predict 75 Yays.

75 yays or 100 yays..This bill is going nowhere in the House. Non-DACA immigrants should start packing their bags. I know I said the House will pass it this time but looking at recent developments that would take a miracle.

What recent developments?

I just got a tweet that President Obama is going to address the call for CIR...we'll see.

yeah I havent heard much recent developments either

Or the lack of them I should've mentioned. There is no consensus. The House Republicans don't care about their elections. Their racist ideology is too big to compromise. There is no concrete evidence that there will be a bill in the House besides an basic "agreement on principle" This same crap happened in 2010 when in the Senate they killed DA. This time its even a bigger uphill battle as there are way too many House Reps to worry about. They'll never vote for the Senate bill. Democrats should just consider tossing this citizenship provision out of this bill and allow us to just drive, work, and travel. Sounds absurd but might as well go through with it. Hate to speak for everyone but there should be no health care benefits at all for us. If we want our own health care, we must purchase it independently or get it through your employers. We should not be entitled to foods stamps either no matter how bad our family situations are and no matter how much our kids are at a risk of starving. We have the experience to cope with issues like this. But if we have the ability to work, drive, travel it will be much easier to cope with these lack of benefits. We can't have our cake and eat it too. Democrats must budge now and make the RPI status in their bill perpetual...

so same old? agree on theory, undecided in practice?

@2face: No. Because then they will lower the standard even more into the ridiculous. You can drive, work and travel, but then they will tell you how, where and when. See the Florida example of authorized presence (DACA) and denial of driver's licenses. And to remove all sorts of safety nets for kids is unrealistic and dangerous, you will have opposition from everyone to these, from our 'allies' and the opposition. And I think it's immoral.

I've written this Maureen Dowd quote before, "the minute you settle for less than you deserve, you get even less than you settled for" - the immigrant community and our 'allies' in govmt acceded to all the security benchmarks that were part of the 2007 immigration deal and then some, and it's now nowhere near enough according to Republicans. Because of human imagination, they will come up with hundreds of other security-related 'ideas' and so security can never be met according to them. And on and on. You get my drift.