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JUST IN: Supreme Court Makes NO Decision on Affirmative Action, Sends Case Back to Lo

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06-24-2013, 10:59 AM
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The Supreme Court will not make a decision on the affirmative action case of Fisher v. University of Texas instead it will send the case back to the lower court.

In a 7-1 decision, with Justice Elena Kagan recused, the Justices voted not to hear the case of Abigail Fisher who was rejected by the University of Texas in 2008 allegedly because she was white. If the highest court would of agreed with her it could of authored the end to affirmative action programs.

http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews....case-ba/25372/
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Affirmative action is such a bull shit policy, minorities have reserved seats for jobs and schools even if they're not as qualified as another person. People should be accepted for a job or an institution of higher learning based on their skill and knowledge not color of their skin.
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Affirmative action is such a bull shit policy, minorities have reserved seats for jobs and schools even if they're not as qualified as another person. People should be accepted for a job or an institution of higher learning based on their skill and knowledge not color of their skin.
Agree 100% with you on this AA shit.
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Conversely, Affirmative Action is about preventing discrimination and ensuring diversity in our nation's universities. How would you feel if you have the same skills and knowledge as another person but were passed over because of the color of your skin or more benignly, a lack of connections?
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Conversely, Affirmative Action is about preventing discrimination and ensuring diversity in our nation's universities. How would you feel if you have the same skills and knowledge as another person but were passed over because of the color of your skin or more benignly, a lack of connections?
That is purely imaginary.

For enrollment and job opportunities, only relevant credentials/qualifications should be evaluated. And EQUALLY for everybody, regardless of skin color.

That is what all other countries are doing!
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^ You actually believe that's what happens in all cases, EditorinChief? And you call my scenario imaginary.

Also, other countries have their own affirmative action policies when it comes to gender and race. Finally, to clear a misconception, quotas are illegal in the United States. Universities can use race, however, as one set of criteria in their admissions policies. That's not so bad, is it?
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That is purely imaginary.

For enrollment and job opportunities, only relevant credentials/qualifications should be evaluated. And EQUALLY for everybody, regardless of skin color.

That is what all other countries are doing!
I agree with you on many things, but not on this one. I see discrimintion as access to opportunity or more accurately, lack of access to opportunity that having the right connections provides. And unfortunately this ties into race because it plays into socioeconomic levels. I have seen it. Repeatedly.

MDs writing letters of reference for friends and family fraudulently claiming work experience for these people to help them gain admission to med school. Fraudulently claiming employment history and experience for family and friends to help them gain employment elsewhere.

Yes, it has been an eye-opening experience. If it happens in healthcare and it is done by professionals holding a universal badge of respectibility - the MD title- I can imagine that it easily happens in other industries. It is disheartening, but it is real.
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Conversely, Affirmative Action is about preventing discrimination and ensuring diversity in our nation's universities. How would you feel if you have the same skills and knowledge as another person but were passed over because of the color of your skin or more benignly, a lack of connections?
Affirmative Action is bad news for Asian community. Instead of preventing discrimination, it actually put us in an disadvantage position when applying for college. How do you feel when you are more qualify but the spot was given to a less qualifying applicants because of your ethnicity? On average, an Asian student has to score higher than other ethnicity to get into the same school, it's not fair.
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Conversely, Affirmative Action is about preventing discrimination and ensuring diversity in our nation's universities. How would you feel if you have the same skills and knowledge as another person but were passed over because of the color of your skin or more benignly, a lack of connections?
What the hell are you talking about? If someone has "connections" it doesn't matter if AA is law or not they'd still get in...

This is my example you have 10 seats open.. 2 of those seats have to be filled by blacks and 1 has to be filled by a Hispanic and another have to be filled by a native american

So you have the highest possible amount of seats Caucasians can fill are 6

Now lets say in the top lineup from the most qualified to the least..

W = white
B = black
O = other (Hispanic, Asians etc)


Most qualified example:

W, W, B, W, W, W, W, O, W, W, B, W, O

Now as you can see, if you we're to pick from the most qualified to the least you would have

8 whites
1 black
1 other minority

But because of this stupid law, it would kick 2 whites out of their seats because they "have to" fill in the minority seats.. Doesn't this seem like discrimination against whites?

This law needs to be overturned and make it most qualified gets the job, if the top 10 qualified candidates are all black, I'd want every single one of them to get their seat.. If its all whites I'd want the same thing.

Don't give me this bull shit connections this connections that.. If you have connections, it doesn't matter what law is in place, you'll get what you want.
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^ You actually believe that's what happens in all cases, EditorinChief? And you call my scenario imaginary.

Also, other countries have their own affirmative action policies when it comes to gender and race. Finally, to clear a misconception, quotas are illegal in the United States. Universities can use race, however, as one set of criteria in their admissions policies. That's not so bad, is it?


In fact, diversity and competitiveness are two different things. The US needs competitiveness to succeed, not diversity.

I do not see how diversity can help the US compete with China and Russia. When China launched their new spacecraft recently, I did NOT see the role of diversity in their success. Competitiveness was the only thing that I saw that could explain their rapid progress in space technology.
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