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Was she ROBBED? Experts Say Something's Up With Votes in 3 Swing States

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11-22-2016, 11:04 PM
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Not so fast.

A prominent group of election lawyers and computer scientists said presidential election results in three swing states that Donald Trump won may have been manipulated or hacked, and are pressing Hillary Clinton to seek a recount, according to a report.

The group held a conference call last week with Clinton's top campaign lieutenants and lobbied for a challenge after finding something fishy in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, according to New York Magazine.

Members of the group told the Clinton camp that in Wisconsin, Clinton's vote count was down 7% in counties that relied on electronic voting machines when compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots, the magazine said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2884089

A statistical analysis showed that under those circumstances, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes. Clinton lost the state — and its 10 Electoral College votes by 27,000 votes.

Wisconsin's metropolitan areas, where Clinton did well, use paper ballots. Rural Wisconsin, where she did not, relies on electronic machines.



The group apparently has no proof of hacking, but said the suspicious pattern is enough for an independent review.

Current tallies put Trump's Electoral College toll at 290 to Clinton's 232, a count that does not include Michigan's 16 vote because that contest was too close to call.

If the die-hards could successfully challenge Michigan and Wisconsin, that would bring Clinton's total to 258. Add the 20 electoral votes from Pennsylvania, if those results are successfully challenged, and Trump goes back to being a private citizen.

The deadlines to challenge in those states are all next week, but it was unclear if the campaign plans to call for a recount.

The magazine said the Obama administration is against a recount because it wants a smooth transition.

Similar reports on New York Magazine: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...n-results.html

The week: http://theweek.com/speedreads/663679...3-swing-states

Newser: http://www.newser.com/story/234448/e...ng-states.html

CNN also has coverage on this.
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11-22-2016, 11:41 PM
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I smell collusion! Hillary for president!
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11-23-2016, 12:29 AM
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I'm telling you this election was just so abnormal. It was the Russians. Some people are so stupid that they didn't even realize how much they were being manipulated by Wikileaks and Putin. Why were no Republicans hacked?!!!?! Trump and company were going on and on about Hillarys emails and now Pence is going to court to keep his emails private. What a joke.
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11-23-2016, 12:56 AM
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There is still hope...electoral college can make history by changing their vote in December.
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11-23-2016, 02:19 AM
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Hillary should challenge results.
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Hillary should challenge results.
That she should. Would be unprecedented, but definitely a saving grace for this country to have her wrestle the election away from the pumpkin king.
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11-23-2016, 09:57 AM
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That she should. Would be unprecedented, but definitely a saving grace for this country to have her wrestle the election away from the pumpkin king.
So if trump releases the immigration bill prior to that, speaking hypothetically, and the bill benefit us a lot, do we really want her to have a chance? Last time I heard the only reason people here supported her was because of immigration. Other than that nobody here likes her. Honest question.
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11-23-2016, 11:02 AM
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So if trump releases the immigration bill prior to that, speaking hypothetically, and the bill benefit us a lot, do we really want her to have a chance? Last time I heard the only reason people here supported her was because of immigration. Other than that nobody here likes her. Honest question.
President doesn't have power to create bills. I also doubt that he will release any detailed immigration agenda before inauguration.

At this time, if Hillary does challenge for a vote recount and won, it would be our safest bet. Trump is very temperamental. He might or might not create something in our flavors. Are we willing to take that chance?
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11-23-2016, 11:17 AM
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That she should. Would be unprecedented, but definitely a saving grace for this country to have her wrestle the election away from the pumpkin king.
is it though? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount
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is it though? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount
Bush v. Gore should not set precedent but should be "limited to the present circumstances". Gore said he disagreed with the Court's decision, but conceded the election.

Perhaps Demise refers to recount in multiple states and possible foreign vote tempering. These are truly unprecedented.
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