DHS: 23% Of All Federal Prisoners Are Undocumented

BeeHive · 08-09-2017, 04:51 PM

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Nearly one-quarter of all federal inmates are illegal immigrants and virtually all are in deportation proceedings or already face removal orders, according to a new Homeland Security report.

The Justice Department's Bureau of Prisons, fulfilling a presidential executive order requiring transparency on prisoner immigration status, said that it houses 187,855 inmates of which 42,034 are foreign born.

The DHS report said that only seven of those 42,034 have been granted deportation "relief." According to DHS:

19,749 (46.9 percent) are aliens who have received final orders of removal.
21,121 (50.2 percent) are aliens who are under ICE investigation for possible removal.
1,157 (2.8 percent) are aliens whose cases are pending adjudication before an Immigration Judge in the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR).
7 (.0002 percent) are aliens who have been granted relief.
Homeland also said that the U.S. Marshal Service has a similar breakdown in its cells. Of 50,135 they've detained, 12,005 "self-report" as illegals. They are all in some type of deportation proceeding:

9,857 (82.1 percent) are aliens who have received final orders of removal.
2,047 (17.1 percent) are aliens whose cases are still pending adjudication before an immigration judge in the EOIR.
101 (.8 percent) are aliens still pending adjudication (U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has charged these aliens as removal cases, but a final disposition has not yet been reached.)
According to experts the percentage of prisoners who are illegal immigrants is down slightly, but still remain a significant population.

Jessica M. Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies, said "For a long time the number of non-citizens serving time in federal prison has been disproportionate to their share of the population. This is because a disproportionate number are border-related crimes, such as human smuggling and drug trafficking, and some are immigration offenders. These crimes are most often committed by citizens of other countries, and these numbers show why we need to control our borders."

Under Trump, she added, the percentage is likely to go higher.

She also said that the numbers show that illegal immigrants with criminal records need to go. Vaughan told Secrets:

"This does not mean that non-citizens are more criminal than Americans, but it does mean that they clearly are not less criminal, and that there are certain crimes that are more closely associated with non-citizens, and certain crimes that are taking place because we do not have a secure border. When we do, and when all criminal aliens are deported instead of released, then the proportion of non-citizens in federal prison will go down."

This is not good for us.

Thoughts.

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bigdreamer2010 · 06:01 PM

Sounds like propaganda to me. Aren't ICE detention centers under the Justice Department's Bureau of Prisons? If so? Then anyone arrested by ICE would be counted since immigration offenses are federal.

They're trying to group those who don't have immigration documents (civil offense) with US born federal inmates who are in jail for things like drug trafficking, child porn and other criminal offenses.

BeeHive · 08-09-2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010

Sounds like propaganda to me. Aren't ICE detention centers under the Justice Department's Bureau of Prisons? If so? Then anyone arrested by ICE would be counted since immigration offenses are federal.

They're trying to group those who don't have immigration documents (civil offense) with US born federal inmates who are in jail for things like drug trafficking, child porn and other criminal offenses.

Interesting. Can anyone confirm this?

bigdreamer2010 · 08-09-2017, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeHive

Interesting. Can anyone confirm this?

Well, I was right. According to Bloomberg:

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About 41,000 are currently being held in immigration detention facilities, up from a “typical” number of between 31,000 and 34,000, Jeh Johnson, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said in a news release Thursday.

Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...etained-in-u-s

Although the number was about 41,000 in November 2016, the 42,034 in your article isn't far off.......

Therefore, in their twisted logic they are saying that grandma who was picked up by ICE for overstaying her visa, is the same type of criminal as a US citizen who's involved in car jacking, armed robberies, serial killings etc etc.

They know that when people hear the word "federal prisoner" they'll think of the crimes I listed above and more.

But we should know better.

2MoreYears · 08-09-2017, 06:29 PM

Thanks for googling all these. Much appreciated.

BeeHive · 08-09-2017, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010

Well, I was right. According to Bloomberg:

Although the number was about 41,000 in November 2016, the 42,034 in your article isn't far off.......

Therefore, in their twisted logic they are saying that grandma who was picked up by ICE for overstaying her visa, is the same type of criminal as a US citizen who's involved in car jacking, armed robberies, serial killings etc etc.

They know that when people hear the word "federal prisoner" they'll think of the crimes I listed above and more.

But we should know better.

Makes perfect sense!! Thanks.

Is there a way we can find what the 23% of undocumented consist of to prove your reasoning correct? Or is this information not available

Got_Daca · 08-09-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010

Well, I was right. According to Bloomberg:

Although the number was about 41,000 in November 2016, the 42,034 in your article isn't far off.......

Therefore, in their twisted logic they are saying that grandma who was picked up by ICE for overstaying her visa, is the same type of criminal as a US citizen who's involved in car jacking, armed robberies, serial killings etc etc.

They know that when people hear the word "federal prisoner" they'll think of the crimes I listed above and more.

But we should know better.

But ICE dont pick up overstayed grandmas.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 08-09-2017, 10:04 PM

No they pick people like Got_DACA
Read my signature

Got_Daca · 08-09-2017, 11:55 PM

No one cares about your ill formed signature

Dreamerr · 08-10-2017, 10:11 AM

This is the GOPs MO twisting of facts and exaggeration .

At least they can focus on them and not us.

They need you!

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