Inside the tense, profane White House meeting on immigration

Swim19 · 10:40 PM

This what killed the deal:

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Trump’s ping-ponging from dealmaking to feuding, from elation to fury, has come to define the contentious immigration talks between the White House and Congress, perplexing members of both parties as they navigate the president’s vulgarities, his combativeness and his willingness to suddenly change his position. The blowup has derailed those negotiations yet again and increased the possibility of a government shutdown over the fate of hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers.”

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But some White House officials, including conservative adviser Stephen Miller, feared that Graham and Durbin would try to trick Trump into signing a bill that was damaging to him and would hurt him with his political base. As word trickled out Thursday morning on Capitol Hill that Durbin and Graham were heading over to the White House, legislative affairs director Marc Short began to make calls to lawmakers and shared many of Miller’s concerns.

Soon, Goodlatte, one of the more conservative House members on immigration, was headed to the White House. Trump also called House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and asked him to come, McCarthy said. Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) and Cotton were also invited to rush over.

In the late morning, before Durbin and Graham arrived, Kelly — who had already been briefed on the deal — talked to Trump to tell him that the proposal would probably not be good for his agenda, White House officials said. Kelly, a former secretary of homeland security, has taken an increasingly aggressive and influential role in the immigration negotiations, calling lawmakers and meeting with White House aides daily — more than he has on other topics. He has “very strong feelings,” in the words of one official. But he’s not a lone voice. Trump in recent weeks has also been talking more to conservatives such as Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) on immigration, these people said.

White House officials say Kelly is determined to secure a deal on dreamers and border security and has told Trump that the southwestern border is worse than it was a few years ago — and that he can be the president to change the status quo.

“Once we saw what was going on in the meeting a few days earlier, we were freaked out,” said immigration hard-liner Mark Krikorian, who runs the Center for Immigration Studies. Trump, he said, “has hawkish instincts on immigration, but they aren’t well-developed, and he hasn’t ever been through these kind of legislative fights.”

After the Thursday meeting, Trump began telling allies that the proposal was a “terrible deal for me,” according to a friend he spoke with, and that Kelly and other aides and confidants were correct in urging him to back away.

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MIdreamer · 01-15-2018, 10:36 PM

Looks like we have to fight for dream act this time. Working with the republicans will get us nothing. Our only hope is government shut down, I hope dems have the courage to do it.

Swim19 · 01-15-2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MIdreamer

Looks like we have to fight for dream act this time. Working with the republicans will get us nothing. Our only hope is government shut down, I hope dems have the courage to do it.

Yea...and General Kelly is a major disappointment.

jaylove16 · 01-15-2018, 10:40 PM

Ha we have no allies in the White House . Yet, we have dreamers putting the blame on our only ally .

Carpenter86 · 01-15-2018, 10:43 PM

Trump and the majority of the GOP don't give a s*it about us, or any immigrant, they want us far away from the USA.
I hope none of you are naive enough to think they want to help us in anyway.
I'm all for a shutdown, and let this government crash and burn

Rida980 · 01-15-2018, 10:43 PM

If this doesnt go through within one month what r the chances within remaining Trump presidency

jaylove16 · 01-15-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter86

Trump and the majority of the GOP don't give a s*it about us, or any immigrant, they want us far away from the USA.
I hope none of you are naive enough to think they want to help us in anyway.
I'm all for a shutdown, and let this government crash and burn

Reading comments apparently some dreamers are suckers and think so.

Nycgal111 · 01-15-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jaylove16

Ha we have no allies in the White House . Yet, we have dreamers putting the blame on our only ally .

It’s pretty sad. Makes me think of the Mark Twain quote about the difference between man and dog. A dog will not bite you after you have made him prosperous.

Rida980 · 01-15-2018, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter86

Trump and the majority of the GOP don't give a s*it about us, or any immigrant, they want us far away from the USA.
I hope none of you are naive enough to think they want to help us in anyway.
I'm all for a shutdown, and let this government crash and burn

In my opinion shutdown over DACA will not happen. Our hope is to rely on legislators and WH to make a deal. If they didnt really want a solution why all this political drama..

MIdreamer · 01-15-2018, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rida980

If this doesnt go through within one month what r the chances within remaining Trump presidency

The chance is pretty low. Trump is fine with sending 600k Haitians and 200k Salvadorans home. I dont see why he wouldn't do the same for 800k dreamers.

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