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Scoop: Trump's license to skirt the law

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07-19-2020, 09:02 PM
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Alright, calling on our DAP resident Attorneys and Attorneys in training. Please chime in on this. When Trump says "Congress has given him the ability to do things never imagined before..through the DACA ruling" does he have any sort of point in that? What is he referring to?

https://www.axios.com/trump-executiv...e670797b2.html


President Trump and top White House officials are privately considering a controversial strategy to act without legal authority to enact new federal policies — starting with immigration, administration officials tell Axios.

Between the lines: The White House thinking is being heavily influenced by John Yoo, the lawyer who wrote the Bush administration's justification for waterboarding after 9/11.

Yoo detailed the theory in a National Review article, spotted atop Trump’s desk in the Oval Office, which argues that the Supreme Court's 5-4 DACA ruling last month "makes it easy for presidents to violate the law."

The president has brought up the article with key advisers, two Trump administration officials tell Axios.
Yoo writes that the ruling, and actions by President Obama, pave the way for Trump to implement policies that Congress won't.

Some could remain in force for years even if he loses re-election.
Yoo — who next week will be out with a new book, "Defender in Chief," on Trump's use of presidential power — tells Axios that he has met virtually with White House officials about the implications of the ruling.
What's next: The first test could come imminently. Trump has said he is about to unveil a "very major" immigration policy via executive order, which he says the Supreme Court gave him the power to do.

The order could include some protections for immigrants who traveled to the U.S. illegally as children, something most Americans support.
That could be a political olive branch to Latino voters, though the Trump administration moved to end the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which led to the Supreme Court's involvement.
The order could also include significant new restrictions on immigration that couldn't get through Congress but are favored by the president, Jared Kushner and hardline adviser Stephen Miller.
Driving the news: Yoo told Axios that Chief Justice John Roberts' opinion "sets out a roadmap about how a president can use his prosecutorial discretion to under-enforce the law."

The recourse would be if the next president tries to reverse what's set in motion.
"Suppose President Donald Trump decided to create a nationwide right to carry guns openly," Yoo writes in his National Review op-ed. "He could declare that he would not enforce federal firearms laws, and that a new 'Trump permit' would free any holder of state and local gun-control restrictions."
"Even if Trump knew that his scheme lacked legal authority, he could get away with it for the length of his presidency. And, moreover, even if courts declared the permit illegal, his successor would have to keep enforcing the program for another year or two."
Reality check: This is a somewhat strained reading of both procedural history and the law, according to Axios’ Sam Baker. The Supreme Court has never ruled either way on DACA’s legality.

But the Supreme Court wouldn’t be able to decide the merits of anything Trump does before the election.
Two administration officials told Axios that although the president has shown an interest in Yoo's thinking, the White House wouldn't rely solely on that.
"You have to act in good faith, and think that what you’re doing is good and legal," one official said.
"It's very much in dispute as to whether or not the president has that much control over immigration through executive order," a second official said.
What we're watching: Trump told Chris Wallace in an interview for "Fox News Sunday" that in addition to replacing DACA with "something much better," he's also going to be unveiling a health care plan within two weeks "that the Supreme Court decision on DACA gave me the right to do."

The White House declined to comment for this story.
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07-19-2020, 09:35 PM
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Don’t get too excited.

1. Trump is a lying snake
2. Whatever this mythical EO gives us is probably a downgrade from what we have now. What could he possibly give us besides longer periods between renewals? He can’t give us legal permanent status, only Congress can do that.
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Can't hate the balls on this guy. He takes any and all situation and manipulates it to his advantage.
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Could it be some bullshit that ends if he is not elected? Some kind of we signing our voluntary deportation in order to get this "protection"?

Whatever it is it has to be better than DACA to fk over the democrats and make them look bad.
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07-20-2020, 02:25 AM
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It's probably the Goodlatte bill in executive action form, plus some money for the wall sprinkled on for good measure. These executive orders will probably be so blatantly unconstitutional that Trump is going to all but dare Democrats to sue.

Of course the DACA measures are going to be tied to the rest of the shitty executive orders so Trump can say Democrats hate DACA. Then 2Face and beingoflight will come in here to do their daily bitching about Democrats cause they love to miss the forest for the trees

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07-20-2020, 06:28 AM
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I dont understand dreamer republicans....ya'll make no sense
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I dont understand dreamer republicans....ya'll make no sense
They like to fuck themselves.
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It's probably the Goodlatte bill in executive action form, plus some money for the wall sprinkled on for good measure. These executive orders will probably be so blatantly unconstitutional that Trump is going to all but dare Democrats to sue.

Of course the DACA measures are going to be tied to the rest of the shitty executive orders so Trump can say Democrats hate DACA. Then 2Face and beingoflight will come in here to do their daily bitching about Democrats cause they love to miss the forest for the trees

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Funny thing is Democrats will not need to sue. Most likely the Texas attorney general will sue. Lol

Such order will not last more than a week.
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Could it be some bullshit that ends if he is not elected? Some kind of we signing our voluntary deportation in order to get this "protection"?

Whatever it is it has to be better than DACA to fk over the democrats and make them look bad.
Did the antipsychotics finally kick in?
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They like to fuck themselves.
Most republicans like to vote against their interests so it only makes sense.
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