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Democrats plot response to Trump on immigration amid fears they could go too far - Page 5

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So why aren’t these hero Republicans taking the lead and asking for a daca solution?

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Because that is not their priority. Their priority is Wall Funding and McConnell is doing their job by asking for $5B. It is the Democrats job to get a Dreamer solution, which they are absolutely not doing. Schumer said this week he is more than happy to take this into 2020. It's incredible and unbelievable at the same time.
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No one cares if they matter to you. Just pointing out they have more of a right (granted their asylum claim is credible) for legal status than yourself. They're protected by international law. You're protected by a piece of paper that's about to get torn tf up in a few months lmao. Get off your high horse bud
You've got to understand that there is no damn way a country can just randomly let thousands of people in like that. I am fully opposed to that. You're the one who is on a high horse. We're protected by more than a piece of paper. The courts have already answered. DACA recipients are lawfully present in the country (Don't get it confused with legal status. We don't have legal status. That's Congresses job to give us). But the fact that we are lawfully present is undeniable.
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with all due respect, Mexico offered the Caravan asylum and work permits but majority of them denied it and still want to come here. only a few actually went back to their homeland.

im not attacking them, but from the optics we lose the narrative on immigration on this issue if we let them all in or they ask for asylum.

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No one cares if they matter to you. Just pointing out they have more of a right (granted their asylum claim is credible) for legal status than yourself. They're protected by international law. You're protected by a piece of paper that's about to get torn tf up in a few months lmao. Get off your high horse bud
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Democrats advance Trump's xenophobic policies by giving him $1.6 billion in border security, which is not chump change. Democrats do this without getting anything on legalization or protection for immigrants here.
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You got it backwards. Caravans must pack up and go back
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You've got to understand that there is no damn way a country can just randomly let thousands of people in like that. I am fully opposed to that. You're the one who is on a high horse. We're protected by more than a piece of paper. The courts have already answered. DACA recipients are lawfully present in the country (Don't get it confused with legal status. We don't have legal status. That's Congresses job to give us). But the fact that we are lawfully present is undeniable.
The idea that thousands of people are going to be granted asylum is false. A few have credible fear, the rest will be sent back. And some will be unfairly tortured in detention. And yes, for now the courts have answered. But as we all know, the highest court of this land will rule.

And I'm surprised the defense is that we can't let thousands of people in. When over the years, tens of millions are here without documentation. At the end of the day, I would like to see those with credible fear to be granted asylum, as stipulated by the Geneva convention. But I'm also not illiterate to think that we're not doing something similar. Squatting and using the excuse that we've been here for so long that we deserve legal status.
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No one cares if they matter to you. Just pointing out they have more of a right (granted their asylum claim is credible) for legal status than yourself. They're protected by international law. You're protected by a piece of paper that's about to get torn tf up in a few months lmao. Get off your high horse bud
There is no such thing as international law.

I am all for asylum of people in need. However, these people seem to have turned down Mexico's offer for asylum, and to me that is bullshit.

I am all for letting people in who really need it, those facing danger back home. This economic migration is bs.

Also, they do not have more right than we do. We did not commit a crime, our parents did. That is the whole premise under dream act.

These people are such low life. They come in large numbers, make a mess of Mexican towns already at the brink of chaos, demand help from the Mexican gov. Yet turn down any asylum offers.
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The caravans issue is distracting us and even diving the dreamers here. How many more immigration issues do we need to make us even less relevant? Immigration plays a big role in Brexit, so similarly caravans is affecting our image.
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There is no such thing as international law.

I am all for asylum of people in need. However, these people seem to have turned down Mexico's offer for asylum, and to me that is bullshit.

I am all for letting people in who really need it, those facing danger back home. This economic migration is bs.

Also, they do not have more right than we do. We did not commit a crime, our parents did. That is the whole premise under dream act.

These people are such low life. They come in large numbers, make a mess of Mexican towns already at the brink of chaos, demand help from the Mexican gov. Yet turn down any asylum offers.

Look. I don't want anymore Latino immigrants as much as the next guy, I'll give you that much. I think we're all tired of going downtown and seeing Pablo in his cowboy boots and Jeans going to the Bar while his anchor babies are with the babysitter.

But the United States agreed to an agreement and as a government they have to accept it.

And in terms of the "my parents broke the law I didn't," that's great and all. But honestly, who gives a damn. I mean it makes for a great sob story on CNN and NYT! But let's be real. That doesn't get legislation passed.
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Look. I don't want anymore Latino immigrants as much as the next guy, I'll give you that much. I think we're all tired of going downtown and seeing Pablo in his cowboy boots and Jeans going to the Bar while his anchor babies are with the babysitter.

But the United States agreed to an agreement and as a government they have to accept it.

And in terms of the "my parents broke the law I didn't," that's great and all. But honestly, who gives a damn. I mean it makes for a great sob story on CNN and NYT! But let's be real. That doesn't get legislation passed.
I agree with you specially when these Pablos, 40%+ of them support candidates like Ted Cruz aka Lyin Ted.
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