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Going to the meeting gets NOTHING done when Trump already stated that there would be no deal before the meeting even takes place.
That is an assumption. Also arent you of many who says Trump always flip flop or dont take what he says true?
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That is an assumption. Also arent you of many who says Trump always flip flop or dont take what he says true?
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Meeting with “Chuck and Nancy” today about keeping government open and working. Problem is they want illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked, are weak on Crime and want to substantially RAISE Taxes. I don’t see a deal!
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That is an assumption. Also arent you of many who says Trump always flip flop or dont take what he says true?
Trump needs to learn tweets have consequences.

Also it shows the Democrats aren't bluffing about withholding their votes on the spending bill.
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Can someone explain how pulling out of a meeting gets shit done?

Am I the only one who sees this as bad thing, when i've been the most optimistic these past years.
Republicans need democratic votes, that's how. You don't see Ryan saying "Welp, better go call in the Freedom Caucus", because he has nothing he can give them that would pass through the house, let alone the senate.

It's all a question of leverage and with this stunt whatever republicans had got thrown the fuck out.
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That is an assumption. Also arent you of many who says Trump always flip flop or dont take what he says true?
Yeah but it is hard to negociate with someone who said no deal was gonna be done. It is going to be for a loss if trump agrees to something. So its better to wait and let pressure do its thing
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Trump needs to learn tweets have consequences.

Also it shows the Democrats aren't bluffing about withholding their votes on the spending bill.
Okay twitter I disagree, freedom of speech.

The second statement wouldnt backfire to us democrats if the spending bill doesnt pass? Trump will just blame the democrats.
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Yeah but it is hard to negociate with someone who said no deal was gonna be done. It is going to be for a loss if trump agrees to something. So its better to wait and let pressure do its thing
Okay but at least you go and see if you can change his mind. Then if it is true then you use that against him.

This is just making us democrats look like pussies.
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Republicans need democratic votes, that's how. You don't see Ryan saying "Welp, better go call in the Freedom Caucus", because he has nothing he can give them that would pass through the house, let alone the senate.

It's all a question of leverage and with this stunt whatever republicans had got thrown the fuck out.
Okay so if the bill doesnt pass, I asked this before, wouldnt it make us look bad? Or will it make Trump look worse?
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Okay twitter I disagree, freedom of speech.

The second statement wouldnt backfire to us democrats if the spending bill doesnt pass? Trump will just blame the democrats.
What? What does freedom of speech have anything to do with it? Trump is free to tweet what he wants, but then he can't be mad when it has consequences.

I don't see this backfiring on Democrats. I think this will energize the Democratic base. And Democrats can blame Trump. His party is the one in charge.
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Okay twitter I disagree, freedom of speech.

The second statement wouldnt backfire to us democrats if the spending bill doesnt pass? Trump will just blame the democrats.
Trump can blame the fucking pixies and fairies if it makes him happy. When something fucks up it's always the president's party that gets shafted. Trump might think that he can point and it'll work but it won't.

Regarding freedom of speech, well no one is persecuting him for it. But if you say fuck you to someone before major talks then don't be surprised that they make a 180 and walk out.
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