In Congress, parties still far apart on fixing DACA - Page 3

The whole point is, if they want Democrat's votes for the budget bill, they need to attach the Dream Act.

The reason compromise will not work, is because Ryan is entrusting a DACA bill that would have the majority of support of a Republican house. That will be bare minimum daca protections in exchange for tougher interior immigration enforcement, wall money, RAISE act provisions. All of these are nonstarters for Democrats and moderate Republicans.

I see the same kind of promises being made to Dreamers about the DA in the same way that the Rs did with Obama. Lots of promises to get people worked up and then nothing. They were going to filibuster the budget unless Obama repealed Obamacare. That is why we have not passed an actual budget in years. We keep getting continuing resolutions to keep the government open without doing any thing.


Obama care was a republican health care plan anyway, and they still hated it, just using it for a political football.

All political noise without action., I am a cynic when it comes to politics.

The difference is they don't have to fillibuster. All Democrats have to do is withhold votes. The Republixans have enough senators and house members to pass a budget. They have a Republican president that won't veto it.

That's the difference.

A continuing resolution still requires votes. Continuing resolutions will no longer be getting freedom caucus support. The last time they supported it was because they were going to use that budget to repeal Obamacare through recomcilitarion.

Democrats can not backtrack now!

they should look at their fundraising numbers, while grassroots progressive Dems outraise GOP PACs

I do agree that compromise is hard , but it does not have to be impossible. Politicians have staked out positions that make it hard to negotiate. Right now the position is , give us what we want and we give you nothing you want. That leads to inaction. I can't tell if this is their starting position or their bottom line in negotiation.

In negotiation, give them something that you don't care about. Let him build his stupid wall in exchange for the dream act. A wall won't work, but who cares. It will stroke trumps ego, and he can come away with a win. If they want the RAISE act, give it to them, but get what you want like give convert all DACA holders to Green card holders immediately, not in 5 years.

I think politicians are more interested in sound bites than getting something done.

give it some time. everyone wants to chip in their ideas and get recognize for their share.

Can you clarify. Republican have enough senators to pass a budget without Democrat support? Without Democrats it's not filibuster proof

The Democrats do not need to filibuster in order to stall the budget bill.
Republicans have more than 218 house member at 240
They have more than 50 Republican senators at 52

As you can see, they only need a simple majority of 218 and 50 (With a tie resulting in Mike Pence voting) even then they have 52.

They have more than enough members to pass a budget deal among party lines.
However, the freedom caucus and fiscal conservatives want a reduction in government spending before they give their votes to a budget deal. Its the reason 17 GOP senators and 90 house republicans voted NO on the most recent budget deal Trump did with the Dems.

If they offer budget cuts, they start losing moderate Republicans and for sure Democrats.

So as you see, Dems do not even have to filibuster for a budget bill. If Republicans were so sure of the votes from their party, do you think they'd even be having meetings with the democrats?

They need the votes, and that's not even including a filibuster.