John McCain: LGBT Issues 'Best Way To Derail' Immigration Bill - Page 4

You sound awful. People who want equal treatment are crybabies? That would signify that you too are a crybaby -- for wanting a green card. What makes you more deserving of immigration rights than gays?

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

I think people are missing the point a little bit here, so let me help put things in perspective. Firstly, Americans have said time and time again that immigration reform is an issue that NEEDS to be tackled. It is clear from the 2012 Presidential Election results that it will be in the best interest of the Republicans to work collaboratively with Democrats and Independents in order to achieve Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) due to the changing demographics.

If the Republicans hope to ''derail'' Comprehensive Immigration Reform OR if the Republicans hope that social issues being introduced into CIR will help derail the Bill and therefore help provide an excuse for them (The Republicans), standing by and doing nothing to help pass CIR, they are sadly mistaken. The current immigration system is broken, and ALL ASPECTS of Immigration from Family/Work Preference categories to The Dream Act to All Undocumented Immigrants to LGBT Americans and their significant others to International Students ALL need to be addressed under a more MODERN Bill. Hence the words ''Comprehensive'' Immigration Reform.

If the Republicans are banking on stalling the CIR Bill due to social issues related to the Bill then they stand to lose a lot because they will essentially annoy the Hispanic voters affected by CIR through family and friends as well as LGBT Americans, as well as their friends and supporters, and they (The Republicans) will continue to lose votes from these important groups of Americans.

The Republicans HAVE to start being open to at least having discussions on issues that they typically dismissed in the past because it will not work this time around. American have spoken and have stated that they need CIR to be addressed....

I can't believe the discrimination from so many..It goes to show that discrimination runs abundant in all walks of life ..Including those that have been ostracized for being in a country where u are now a living ghost..
well i guess what they say is true...you become a product of your environment,the typical self serving american who doesn't give a flying F$%k about anything but themselves..If it doesn't effect you then why bother..SMDH

Umm he didn't say that. Under CIR, whether you are gay or straight, you'd be able to legalize your status so long as you met the requirements. I think what most people here who aren't in favor of CIR including any LGBT language are trying to say is that if it makes it easier to pass then exclude it. Nobody is trying to say you are less deserving of receiving a green card because you're gay. Just because republicans have softened up on their views towards CIR doesn't mean they've done so for every other thing too.

I think these two groups should have a mutual understanding at whats in stake for both groups.

I sound awful wtf?

LBGTers go fight your own battles.

Its all politics anyway. President Obama can't just come out and say that he supports the Senate proposal. Getting too cozy with the Republicans in the gang of eight is just a liability for them.

Democrats need to support this in a CIR bill because it makes the whole bill seem more to the left and it gives Republicans the opportunity to turn to their base and say "look we bent the Democrats our way".

I find it ridiculous that all of you are sitting here saying that you are "fighting for your dream" and at the same time saying you do not support the progression of lgbt rights. I understand that this could put the whole proposition at risk, but there are a lot of lgbt immigrants out there that even after being daca approved or even getting their green cards will have little to show if they are not given the same rights as heterosexual couples.

I, for example, am in a long term relationship with my partner and are currently relying on my daca approval to decide whether to stay in this country or not. If I get denied, we are packing out bags and moving back to Mexico, the country I have not been to since I left it almost 20 years ago. I don't have family there and I don't know anything about the culture (mainly because my family disowned me after coming out), but we are willing to start over just so we can have an opportunity at a life where I can get any job I want, we can get married, and most importantly, we are able to adopt and start our own family (because, guess what... God has a sense of humor and not only made us both gay women, but also unable to have children).

With all that said, some of you seriously need to reconsider what your argument is for this battle, I'm not saying change your mind, but just think that out there somewhere, being approved for daca or even seeing this new proposition go through is only the beginning of life long struggles for some of us. We're not fortunate white people who all got our parents old cars the day we turned 16, but shy scared teens and adults living under the radar having always having to avoid questions like "why don't you go to college?" or "why don't you have a car?"

Gtfo this country and get legalized bitch.

I sound awful right? Don't be an ignorant idiot.

I feel like you should stick out here for a little bit longer. You never know what may happen with immigration reform.