Lindsay Graham on the VIEW - Page 7

I don't disagree. Yet no law or guideline is ever perfect to contemplate every situation...That's the job of the executive branch/court. It's unfortunate that the TPS group is not getting as much advocacy and publicity (Probably as a result of smaller affected population). DACA alone remains up in the air...so it's not easy for sure. The logic/sentiment makes complete sense - just not sure how the rep will let that fit into the already stalemate negotiation. Should we demand everything including refugee programs? Not sure.

Should demand everyone that got some form of temporary protection and is having it stripped away (by executive order). If you never got any protection so far, you should not be included.

I don't think the Trump administration accidentally did the TPS move right before January 19. Could they be tempting Democrats to add TPS to DREAM Act? That way Republicans can say Democrats asked for too much, they (Democrats) are to blame for nothing being passed.

Adding TPS, though, does give Democrats more wiggle room in negotiations (TPS could serve as a concession).

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought TPS kids were already included in the dream act?

TPS was part of the deal from the beginning. Dem's want to get rid of visa lottery and apply the visa allocations towards TPS. They have been talking about that for months. Trump did this to maximize his leverage for the wall. TPS was always going to be part of the deal.

you guys realize we don't have a saying on which group of people a DACa solution should or shouldn't have right?


You guys must have a lot of time if you're here debating about it

You're right. But the DREAM Act as it stands, does not include those who arrived 18
+.

The Democrats though, as pointed out by catportal, have been negotiating for those aged out TPS recipients to be included in DREAM Act proposal. I was unaware of this.

Still, there must be some purpose to Trump going after TPS at this particular point.

We have little to no say in the outcome of this ordeal.

But we can say that the outcome of this ordeal impacts our lives profoundly. We are not pondering and debating some trivial matter.

Does pondering/debating help? Maybe emotionally, but otherwise it makes no difference.

Given the importance of the matter though, I'm not sure you can judge people for how they cope with the situation.

No one is saying how whatever they decide will impact their lives. They're all talking about which groups should be included

Only DACA recipients, all who qualified for DACA (including those who didn't apply), aged out DREAMERs, TPS childhood arrivals, aged out TPS, DAPA people, all 12 million undocumented immigrants. Where should the line be drawn in the compromise? No one knows.

But let's be clear: wherever Democrats decide to draw the line is important and will impact our lives. We want as many people to be included in this compromise, but we must understand that Democrats drawing the line too far out will risk nothing passing.

There isn't anything wrong discussing where that line should be to maximize the chances of something passing. I disagreed when you said we had too much time on our hands if we were discussing a topic ('the line') that could determine the fate of DREAMers.