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Graham, McCain flirting with immigration reform support

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02-11-2011, 12:28 AM
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Two Republican senators who took a hard right turn against immigration reform last spring are signaling they may be prepared to revisit comprehensive immigration reform in the new Congress.

Of course, the GOP-controlled House would most likely never pass an immigration bill erecting a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants. But GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina are nonetheless hinting that the Senate may attempt reform anyway.

Graham told Politico's Carrie Budoff Brown he is again in talks with New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, though he said their plans are in the "infant stage." McCain said yesterday on CNN he would consider immigration reform once the border is secure. (A deadline that translates, in all likelihood, to Congress first passing the "10-point" border security bill that he and his home-state GOP senate colleague John Kyl have put forward to send 3,000 troops to the border). Republican Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, said in an interview that McCain, once a champion of reform, told him "that there's a shot at this."

Southern Baptist Convention leader Rev. Richard Land, a conservative supporter of comprehensive immigration reform, says the move would be more effective if led by new faces. He suggested newly elected GOP Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. Rubio's spokesman Alex Burgos tells The Lookout that the senator "doesn't belieeve that amnesty is the correct solution to this challenge," and would vote against comprehensive immigration reform.
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If they do this with GOP house, GOP might have a chance to save face with Hispanics.
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Sounds to me that the GOP is worried that if they do not come up with a way to appeal to the Latino community, then they don't have a chance against Obama in the 12' elections. So now they are digging up CIR and bring it back to life, just to bury it again once they are done with the elections whether if its a win or loss. Who knows what will happen.
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02-11-2011, 09:14 PM
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I don't understand this line of reasoning at all...why do you assume that the Latino community will AUTOMATICALLY vote for Obama in 2012?

Can you tell me what Immigration Bill he's FULLY supported and convinced Congress to pass like he did for Healthcare Reform and a bunch of other Bills? The answer is NONE! He couldn't even convince people to work together long enough to even draft a CIR Bill (Graham withdrew his support), he finally decided to support the Dream Act when it was too late and had no chance of passing, and he didn't even push for 245i Extension (something so basic that'd help a lot of people). So what exactly has he done to fulfill his promise of Immigration Reform? NOTHING!

So why should the immigrant community rush to the polls to once again give him their votes with no Immigration Reform passed? That'd be a naive move to be honest.
Seriously, can we get any other nominee from the Dem side besides Obama? Obama doesn't do jack shit.

Just pray that Ron Paul doesn't get elected on Rep side. Ron Paul has very convincing points and you can see from his speech that his words are genuine. Ron is Dem's biggest threat.
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02-11-2011, 09:40 PM
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I don't understand this line of reasoning at all...why do you assume that the Latino community will AUTOMATICALLY vote for Obama in 2012?

Can you tell me what Immigration Bill he's FULLY supported and convinced Congress to pass like he did for Healthcare Reform and a bunch of other Bills? The answer is NONE! He couldn't even convince people to work together long enough to even draft a CIR Bill (Graham withdrew his support), he finally decided to support the Dream Act when it was too late and had no chance of passing, and he didn't even push for 245i Extension (something so basic that'd help a lot of people). So what exactly has he done to fulfill his promise of Immigration Reform? NOTHING!

So why should the immigrant community rush to the polls to once again give him their votes with no Immigration Reform passed? That'd be a naive move to be honest.
Never said Latinos would automatically vote for Obama, but lets face it most Latinos do vote Democrat most of the time. All I know is that both parties started to wave the immigration reform banner, and well whats expected from this: more lies of course. I m not here to argue with anyone, but this seems to me that these politicians are doing once again, we've seen them do it before. Why does it shock you that they might be doing it again?
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Dont you think they would poll and run test to see if it would be worth it for them? We have to watch what comes out of our mouth. And say things that make us sound like good open people all the time.
Note to all members: SCTEACH22 is a troll. He is not for the DREAM Act, nor is he undocumented or sympathetic toward our plight.

He is a bitter citizen who has nothing better to do.

Please flag and report his postings and demand that our sole, moronic moderator ban him once and for all.
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Republicans must pass CIR/DA if they want any chance of winning the 2012 elections or else Obama wins.
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Seriously, can we get any other nominee from the Dem side besides Obama? Obama doesn't do jack shit.

Just pray that Ron Paul doesn't get elected on Rep side. Ron Paul has very convincing points and you can see from his speech that his words are genuine. Ron is Dem's biggest threat.
There is a trend that whenever a President in office has a serious primary challenge from within their own party they (the Pres.) never win. I admittedly don't know much about Ron Paul other than a few speeches and interviews that I've heard, but I'm surprised by how adamant his supporters are for him. I think an important question will be how tolerant Obama's supporters are about his failure to do anything within his first 100 days (a promise he made) and the lack of results when he passed the immigration issue off to Schumer.

At this point I would guess that both sides will act interested in immigration, look like they are working together, then purposely poison the bill so the other side won't like it and they can use it to motivate their respective bases for the 2012 elections. I've been thinking about ways to prevent this, but I got nothing. Any suggestions besides calling their offices?
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02-14-2011, 09:49 PM
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I strongly agree Republicans would agree to vote in favor of CIR/DA if and only if it comes from Republicans!
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