Choice could buy time on immigration - Page 3

angeleno · 05-27-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by questionsihave

I had Diane Wood as my #1, with Sotomayor as #2, but that is another issue.
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Wood was as liberal, and eloquent, as they get. Let's hope she's next.

Ianus · 05-27-2009, 01:01 AM

Here is what Frank Sharry had to say about Obama's nomination choice & what it has to do with immigration.

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Those who think Sotomayor’s nomination means no on comprehensive immigration reform (for those new to this whole world, “amnesty” is what Tanton’s clan call any plan to fix our immigration mess) should consider these four points:

* 1. Hispanic voters care about immigration reform. A whole lot.

* 2. So do swing voters. (In fact, the general public’s support for reform is at an all-time high, despite the economy).

* 3. Obama has renewed his campaign pledge to move reform forward in year 1. Again, and again, and again.

* 4. Two words: June 8th.

On point #1: the 2008 election produced a mandate for real immigration reform by Hispanic voters, who helped flip 4 states from red to blue and whose influence and clout are growing fast. New polling shows that roughly 72 percent of Latinos think that President Obama will keep his campaign promise and move a comprehensive immigration reform bill forward before the end of his first year in office. To simplify: Democrats in Congress, it's time to lean into this issue and get it done. Republicans, change course and help get this issue solved if you want to stop bleeding Latino voters.

On point #2: swing voters see inaction on the immigration issue as a major failure of Washington to solve tough problems. They don’t think deporting 12 million people is the right way to go, but they also think doing nothing is no longer an option (to them, therein lies the real amnesty— letting unscrupulous employers who undercut American workers and taxpayers off scot-free, while doing nothing to reform the broken system). They overwhelmingly want to see comprehensive solutions enacted, and soon.

On point #3, well, enough said.

And finally, on point #4, we all know that actions speak louder than words. In “Obama sets WH immigration reform meeting for June 8,” the Politico reports:

President Barack Obama is inviting members of Congress to the White House for a June 8 meeting to highlight immigration reform, an administration official confirmed to Politico Wednesday.

"The meeting will be an opportunity to launch a policy conversation that we hope will be able to start a debate that will take place in Congress later in the year," the official, who asked not to be named, said.

In the lead up to the White House kick-off meeting on June 8th, we're sure to see plenty more speculation about whether or not the Administration intends to take up reform. Even after Obama makes it clear, from the White House, that reform is part of his agenda for this year, I'm guessing most of the commentariat will continue to predict he won't do it, that his plate is too full, that it's too controversial, and on, and on, and on.

What they don't get is what President Obama understands: the American people voted for a change from business as usual in Washington. They hunger for leaders who address multiple challenges at the same time, who tackle— instead of cowering before— the controversial issues of our day.

CIR_DREAM2009 · 05-27-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CIR_DREAM2009

More on the schedule:

With the summer schedule already booked, that leaves the fall session to be the last remaining time for movement on either CIR/DA or DA stand alone. There's a five week work session starting after Labor Day in September and ending early October. The 5 week fall session remains the last weeks in the Senate agenda not booked for 2009.

The second session of the 111th Congress starts January 2010.

I'll have to do a retraction on this statement because I made it sound like the schedule is intractable and permanent when it is only tentative and subject to change. Digging around on the schedule, it turns out, target adjournment dates are NOT set in stone.

As you can see here, the target adjournment date for 2007, the first session of the 110th, was Nov. 16th, but in actuality, the last vote held in the first session of the 110th was Dec. 18th. The second session of the 110th didn't have a target adjournment date but the last vote was held Dec. 9th. Here's the dates in session in 2007 and 2008 with the days in session in red where the Senate worked until December.

In the 109th Congress, their tentative schedule for the 2nd session with a target adjournment of October 6th (the last of the tentative schedules I found) differs from the actual days in session.

In short, forget everything I said in the quoted box and know that the target adjournment date for the 111th is to be determined. The fall session looks to be longer than five weeks especially if there is outstanding work to be done, and they could conceivably work more weeks in October, November, and December. I apologize for the error.

K-Man · 05-27-2009, 08:04 AM

Lame duck! Lame duck! Lame duck!

lilbawler2001 · 05-27-2009, 09:10 AM

It is not up to Obama to decide if the debate moves forward this year or not. Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid have both made it very clear that they intend to pass an immigration bill this year. Obama has no choice but to drum up support for the bill when it comes up this year like the senate leaders have indicated.

Bruinman · 05-27-2009, 11:24 AM

i sure hope this thing happens before obama's ratings go down.

dado123 · 05-27-2009, 02:12 PM

Appointing Sotomayor is not related to CIR he still has to keep promise, let's wait and see what Obama's plans are on June 8th.

angeleno · 05-27-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

i sure hope this thing happens before obama's ratings go down.

Just out of curiosity. Let's say hypothetically you were already a citizen. Would you vote Republican?

Bruinman · 05-27-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by angeleno

Just out of curiosity. Let's say hypothetically you were already a citizen. Would you vote Republican?

depends on the issue. i like to think for myself and arrive at a logical conclusion instead of following mob mentality.

angeleno · 05-27-2009, 03:24 PM

Just what I thought. Thanks.

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