Grumbles over immigration meeting

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23348.html

who is making the guest list, and why did they leave out Mccain?
...this is not a good way to start the ball rolling.

I agree with this guy:
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The aide suggested the White House might be using the meeting as a “smokescreen to cover Obama’s campaign promise,” giving proponents of immigration reform a symbolic victory, but not necessarily making a good-faith push to pass legislation.

“This is a show,” the aide continued. “There’s neither the time nor the inclination to deal with immigration later this year and going into next year. It’s a political football. Why not highlight the perceived divide between Hispanics and Republicans? What better wedge issue than immigration?”

Well, McCain did say not to look at him for leadership on CIR, so that's what he gets lol.

that's a definite possibility from the standpoint of power-hungry politicians. we maybe in dire urgent need, but they're not. they've got a whole lotta other things on their plates.

what we lack is overwhelming public support over this. we see small time poll agencies claim that 60-70% of americans support CIR with a sample size of 100 (lol), but i look around and i just dont see the same sentiment indicative of that percentage. for example, read public comments below every immigration related news article....majority of them are bigoted and anti-CIR. of course, thats not indicative of what the average american might think, and people who leave those comments are the ones who feel so strongly against it (and those who may feel pro or neutral about it wouldnt even care to post unless they are passionate advocates), but its certainly disheartening.

I agree with you about these so called "polls", while everyone and their mama seems to be against CIR.

This is a distinct possibility I mentioned earlier in the year.Some of the earliest articles I've seen concerning Obama & Immigration usually mentioned ~2011-12 as the likely timeline he'll actually make an effort due to facing his own re-election for President around that time.The Hispanic vote will hate the Republicans even more for another failed immigration bill causing an even larger percentage of Hispanic votes for the President in 2012.

Small time poll agencies? What the hell does that even mean? And if you consider Los Angeles Times, Beneson Strategy, Washington Post, Pew Research Center, CBS, ABC News, Bloomberg News, et al "small time", then what exactly do you consider big time? Fox News' Rassmussen and Zogby?

And the reason all immigration articles are flooded with anti-immigrant comments is because Alitards - who tend to live off of disability checks, and have no social lives whatsoever - copy and paste the same talking points multiple times under different screen names. Just today they had a "red alert" about posting on reformimmigrationforamerica.org, and as you can see, they're already working on it.

Ask them to produce a single poll that shows overwhelming support for mass deportation, and you'll get nothing. But that doesn't mean that they'll stop living in their fantasy world where everyone hates immigrants.

Have you considered a scenario where Republicans like McCain-Martinez take the initiative with CIR and put Obama against the wall?

You mean call Obama's bluff? Highly unlikely that they would sacrafice their reputation with the Republican voters. However, what if CIR was passed within the next couple of years? How many immigrants would actually become citizens (able to vote) by 2012? Not many, but by 2016 when and if Obama can no longer run?

Even if they're so inclined (which they're not), they don't have the power to do anything. Sen. Majority Leader Reid is the one who controls the Senate agenda, and he's said that he wants to do immigration reform by the end of this year. Relax everyone.