McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year - Page 4

Good job Sherlocks, I'm pretty sure that the millions of dollars spent on ads, more than a legislative year wasted on negotiations, and John Boehner (pronounced boner) Oscar-worthy performance on the floor of the House were all part of the master plan to stick it to the undocumented. Damn those sneaky politicians.

Get over yourselves, you're not worth the effort. Really.

You can blame Univision and the Cuban oligarchy in the company for that.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Univision is like Fox News in Spanish. Remember how Univision executives sent out that memo on the eve of the biggest immigration march forbidding their "talent" to speak about it? You would think that after the memo leaked Latinos would've stopped watching that garbage, but I guess watching novelas beats out silly boycotts.

lol hehe

i think this deserves an "OH, SNAP!"

or maybe..

"YOU GO, GIRLFRIEND!"

hahaha

PSS: I didn't mean to come off bitchy. I'm, like, really really nice guys.

its just that time of the month, eh? (no offense to the real ladies of the forum )

Don't kid yourself.

If you ask me, that's cooperating.

Republicans added their own share of amendments to the health reform as well. You don't honestly think that they were not willing to cooperate on legislation do you?

PSNo hard feelings, I understand everyone has their bad day. Don't be so fierce because then people get shut down and it discourages them from posting. We wouldn't want to lose any of our active members right right?

Republicans are NOT willing to cooperate on ANY piece of legislation so far. They are in the minority, yet they want to act as if they are in the majority and have their own way on every single piece of legislation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_508935.html

I can't believe someone actually buys the bullcrap the republicans are trying to sell.

This is my point exactly. The Republicans have taken up the tactic of opposition for its own sake. They think that this will give them something to bludgeon the Democrats with in November. The reason some in the Senate voted for the jobs bill was because nobody is paying attention to that--witness all the complaints in this very thread about how nobody noticed a couple of hundred thousand people marching on immigration, while a few thousand tea party people make news--and they didn't want to give the Democrats anything to use against them in November.

Seriously, though: nobody really believed McCain was going to support immigration anyway, right? Last I heard in Arizona they were trying to pass a state law to make it illegal to be undocumented there. He has a right-wing opponent in the primary who is rabidly anti-immigrant, and he has been discredited on the hard right of the party for supposedly being too liberal in the presidential election. Seriously, if you listen to certain conservative talk radio shows, some even view him after the fact as a kind of Manchurian candidate who threw the election on purpose. And these people will matter in a Republican primary.

I still believe that McCain could act like a real statesman again. I just don't think he will do that until after the elections are over.

Guys, you re missing the larger picture here. McCain - who under other conditions should vote for immigration reform- is facing a very serious right-wing challenge for the Republican primary which is going to get settled in August. Until then, it's very hard for him to support immigration reform, because that will endanger his reelection even further.

Moreover, although HCR came to be such a dividing issue is a result of Republican strategy, the end result is that Republicans have now an angry base which will pressure them to not compromise with the Democrats, while as the same time Democrats must feel exhausted by the brutal partisan fighting and unwilling to engage an issue which is deemed divisive and likely to mobilize the Republican base in a kind of election - midterms- where party bases matter much much more.

Last but not least, the biggest problem is that while there are 59 Sen. Dems in this Senate, not all of them are going to vote for reform - in fact looking at voting records and statements, I see 4-5 who in all likelihood won't vote for (the W VA senators and guys like Dorgan, McCaskill, Landrieu, Tester, Baucus) and another 4-5 who are a tough sell. So you need 5-10 Republican senators and the problem is that many of the moderate ones who voted for CIR in 2007 have retired (Lott, Martinez, Hagel, Craig) while others face a similar problem like McCain and don't want to stand against their base before the mid-terms.

So while it's understandable that a lot of anger is directed at Obama, the problem lies in the Senate and the overall political climate.

I really hope that immigration reform passes this year. But if it doesn't, it's imperative that we support the Dems as best as we can this year, because if they end up losing the House -as it's a very strong possibility they are- then any chance of reform in the next congress is dead. The same is true of the senate. I am afraid that most Republicans who are going to replace Dem. Senators are going to be anti-immigration (Look at DE and AR Senate races for example) and that also's going lessen the chances of reform.

I am not saying that CIR isn't going to happen this year. But to the best of my knowledge and my ability to read the situation, it looks highly unlikely. Frustrating, I know, but that's the truth beyond all the noise coming around these days.