Senate to vote on taking up 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal - Page 2

Originally Posted by KB24

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Originally Posted by KB24
No. It goes like this.
Reid or Levin will ask for unanimous consent to proceed to the bill, a republican senator will object and mccain or somebody else will filibuster. Then to defeat this filibuster..
First - Vote to overcome cloture (kill the filibuster) and to start debate on the whole defense bill itself. 60 needed if a republican senator starts filibustering or 51 needed if they don't filibuster (yea right)
Second - If cloture is defeated, amendments will be offered. First amendment brought up could be the DREAM Act. 60 needed if a republican senator starts filibustering or 51 needed if they don't filibuster (doubt it)
Second (version 2) - If the democrats can't get 60 votes, then it's dead or they could make a republican senator actually filibuster (make somebody talk and talk forever [literally, they can't even leave for a break or to go to the bathroom]. But they might bring it up again later (probably after elections).
Third - republicans will bring up amend to strike (get rid of ) the DADT language in the defense bill. 60 needed.
and there will be more votes depending on how many additional amendments are offered and there will be one vote to overcome cloture on the entire bill 60 needed again. and last vote to pass the bill 51 needed. But what's for sure is that the final final vote will not take place tomorrow. Probably not this week at all.

How do I know? I am double majoring in economics and political science and I watch 4 hrs of news (msnbc) every weekday and I've watched cspan1 and 2 many times before so I am familiar with the house and senate procedures.

Nobody knows what exact time which votes will take place because of all the bs speeches the republicans will give bitching about how this is all a political stunt by Reid and talking shit about the DREAM Act and all the quorum calls (telling senators to come to the floor for a vote or etc. this takes a long time but they play a little classical music for you though so you don't get bored lol). But first vote (cloture vote) is scheduled at 2:15 ET. So tune into C-span2 tomorrow at 2 and you just have to keep watching (takes hours) as boring Cspan can be. you can watch cspan online. just go to google and search cspan. remember to go to cspan2. cspan1 is house and cspan2 is senate.




DA User.. Honestly, I don't know.. All I know is that we will be extremly lucky if we do manage to get 62 yay votes easily as you say.. lol but really. At this point, only God knows. Pray, that's all you can do right now and leave the rest up to God. But a lot of things will have to go right in our favor for Dream to pass tomorrow though like that no more democrat senators stab us in the back like ben nelson and hope that some republicans (at least 2-3, more is better) will have a compassionate heart and some conscience. I'm not going to give out my prediction and a % of passing. I don't wanna jinx it. If you have some time tonight or maybe really early tomorrow morning, send out last minute emails or call the offices of LeMieux-R, Hagan-D, Ben Nelson - D, Pryor-D, Snowe-R, Collins-R, Voinovich-R, Gregg - R, and Brown - R

Originally Posted by DA User

Also, several senators are confused on this bill and are undecided so its needs to cleared. The senators who are opposing it actually like the DA bill but don't want it attached. Reid has to come up big today!

Originally Posted by victor85

Idk.... If we can't get 60 votes to start the defense bill debate, dream act won't even come up.

Originally Posted by DA User

So based on the recent articles I've read. It seems like DA is better off stand-alone.

If we don't get 60 tomorrow, the best that can happen is that DA comes as a stand-alone before elections.

Even if it comes right after elections, I would still be happy.

CIR is going to come after elections anyways.

Originally Posted by KB24

omg.. you don't know that.. You wanna know something? They have plenty of other stuff to do besides the CIR after elections (they have around a month left give or take a week). They still have to pass the defense bill (the final vote is supposed to happen after elections). They still have to do decide on whether to extend the bush tax cuts and pass it. That will take weeks at least and they have other appropriations bills to do.

Originally Posted by DA User

DA was attached as a surprise for the DREAMers. Who would have thought that today was the voting day!

Originally Posted by victor85

your point is taken ! It comes as a total surprise for me. I still feel bitter that they passed the $600mil border security bill so easily last month without attaching dream act to it >_< wth.

I can't even sleep now.

Originally Posted by DA User

DA was attached as a surprise for the DREAMers. Who would have thought that today was the voting day!