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How come the Dems with a majority can’t pass the Dream Act? - Page 2

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09-25-2010, 02:31 AM
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Diversity in ideology is both the strength and weakness of the Democratic Party. In contrast, unity in ideology is both the strength and weakness of the Republican Party.

The Democrats always have unity problems when it comes to voting for certain issues. That is why they had so many problems when they tried to pass some of the most important items on their agenda such as the health care reform. And, that is why they do not have an agreement on the Bush-era tax cuts that are making news. You see a lot of conservative Democratic lawmakers. Although you might say it is a bad thing, it gives them chances of having A LOT of seats (ex - supermajority in the Senate) that the Republican Party will never get unless there is a fundamental change in the distribution of the seats in the Congress.

The Republicans, on the other hand, do not have many moderate Republicans. They had many just a few years ago, and now they have only a handful of them. That makes them unite easily and fiercely oppose anything the Democrats try to do. As you all know, they use fear and extremism to scare people. While that gives them an advantage in the short run, it will make them a smaller minority over time. It is just a matter of time. Also, the "Tea Party" candidates that the Republican leaders are willing to support right now will become troublesome for the leaders in the near future. They will be literally "uncontrollable" in the Congress. The Republican leadership won't have any control over them. These people are a double-edged sword.....

However, for us, the short-term disadvantage that the Democrats have is toxic. Unless they pass the DREAM Act this year, we won't have much of a chance for the next few years as more extreme Republicans are expected to enter the Congress.
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Diversity in ideology is both the strength and weakness of the Democratic Party. In contrast, unity in ideology is both the strength and weakness of the Republican Party.

The Democrats always have unity problems when it comes to voting for certain issues. That is why they had so many problems when they tried to pass some of the most important items on their agenda such as the health care reform. And, that is why they do not have an agreement on the Bush-era tax cuts that are making news. You see a lot of conservative Democratic lawmakers. Although you might say it is a bad thing, it gives them chances of having A LOT of seats (ex - supermajority in the Senate) that the Republican Party will never get unless there is a fundamental change in the distribution of the seats in the Congress.

The Republicans, on the other hand, do not have many moderate Republicans. They had many just a few years ago, and now they have only a handful of them. That makes them unite easily and fiercely oppose anything the Democrats try to do. As you all know, they use fear and extremism to scare people. While that gives them an advantage in the short run, it will make them a smaller minority over time. It is just a matter of time. Also, the "Tea Party" candidates that the Republican leaders are willing to support right now will become troublesome for the leaders in the near future. They will be literally "uncontrollable" in the Congress. The Republican leadership won't have any control over them. These people are a double-edged sword.....

However, for us, the short-term disadvantage that the Democrats have is toxic. Unless they pass the DREAM Act this year, we won't have much of a chance for the next few years as more extreme Republicans are expected to enter the Congress.
yes. i completely agree. thats exactly what i was talking about on the page before and on the lame duck worries thread. you must be a poli sci major too and watch a bunch of news also
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let me ask yall something.. Bc I am semi-ignorant to how the senate does business.. Has the senate always needed 60 votes to pass a damn bill or is this a new trend?
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let me ask yall something.. Bc I am semi-ignorant to how the senate does business.. Has the senate always needed 60 votes to pass a damn bill or is this a new trend?


yes and no. it used to be that it required 60 votes to pass only very controversial laws (like the civil rights act and tax laws) so the 60 vote requirement was used only little but republicans recently since 4 years ago started demading that 60 vote requirement for every single damn thing. 4 years ago democrats took back control of senate.. you can easily tell from the graph. hmm what a coincidence. they're all just fucking sore losers like john mcfake. and that picture doesn't even show the 111th congress which is this 2009 and 2010 congress and there were even more filibusters this past last two years than ever before. republicans broke the record. good job you unconscionable and shameless bastards
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yes. i completely agree. thats exactly what i was talking about on the page before and on the lame duck worries thread. you must be a poli sci major too and watch a bunch of news also
No... I'm not a political science major... I'm a biology major, but you're correct. I read a lot of news articles, partly, because I'm worried about the passage of the DREAM Act and my future... It's sad... I do not like politics, but the little hope that the DREAM Act might pass makes me keep reading news articles about politics and immigration... It just repeats over and over again...

And, it's maddening to see these ignorant and crazy Republicans use false information and fear to take control of the Congress and our future. It looks like they will be partly successful... Average Americans are too ignorant to see that.....

It's depressing to acknowledge that these people have control over my future.
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