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Seriously...

But in any case, I think Gutierrez is full of hot air.
yeah, he is the same man that still believes that CIR will pass this year lol
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I never said he voted against it to block it. He did it as a tactic, it benefited the DA so it didn't DIE and didn't have to be debated thru the Committee. In that case, Reid can bring up the bill to the chamber easily since his vote was a no. Want some more research?
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That guy reminds me of DA USER
It is.

[spoiler]nah just kidding, but it'd be funny[/spoiler]
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yeah, he is the same man that still believes that CIR will pass this year lol
If it does all the minute men would open fire on every foreigner they see. As well as all new illegals.
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I think u guys might need to do a little more research. From what I know from news articles Reid voted no so its 58 and not all Democrats support it. It was 57 votes bc Don't as don't Tell and Defense Bill. There is at least 3-5 GOPs that support it as a stan alone tho. OUR JOB now is to keep calling and sending them all kinds of memos to vote for the DA. Keep the pressure going to all senators. I do have confidence it will pass as a stand alone AFTER nov 2 elections.
You do know why Reid voted No right?
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We should be careful not to conflate 56 (57 with Reid) affirmative votes for beginning debate on the Defense Authorization Bill with with 57 affirmative votes for the DREAM Act. They are not the same. A vote to begin debate on the defense bill is just that. And while most of those that voted yes on Tuesday will also vote yes on DREAM, some will not. Therefore, it's not just a matter of getting "only 3 more GOP votes."

As long as there is some hope that DREAM will be reconsidered, then I'm fine with that. But that in no way should contribute to any belief that we only need the votes of a few sympathetic GOPers. We have to approach this like we have no GOP votes.
We must have 1 Rep vote yes to pass.
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yeah, he is the same man that still believes that CIR will pass this year lol
This guy is just as serious as Durbin.
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yeah, he is the same man that still believes that CIR will pass this year lol
how do you have the balls to show your face in this forum after what you did to us? how?
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@DA USER read my comment above yours.
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We must have 1 Rep vote yes to pass.
1 vote is definitely necessary but not sufficient. We can't minimize the amount of help we need from Republicans. If we adopt this view that, "oh well, Gutierrez is HOPEFUL that the Senate would bring DREAM back and that the vote on the defense bill is a great sign therefore we only need a few more Republicans" then we are missing the mark. Some Democrats will defect when DREAM comes up for a straight up vote, that much is clear. We need more than just some GOPers. We need a lot so let's not get complacent.
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