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Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session - Page 3

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10-30-2010, 02:41 AM
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I'm not entirely sure introducing the DreamAct is necessarily a 'bad' thing for Senator Reid. The DreamAct, according to this poll (Q.27 ) seems to be quite a popular piece of legislation in Nevada.
off the people asked by the poll 96% stated they would most likely vote, the remaining 4% would probably vote, now that's just so high its suspicious 8-o.

Unfortunately the results all over the board on the DA, the 500 people polled seemed to favor the DA slightly more, but 500 people is not that many and it depends on how they got the contact information, due to the voter turnout question I am guessing they used records of past voters which would not take into account the youth that might be voting for the first time that might favor us and voters that may have not voted in the past but might be energized to vote due to the huge unemployment rate, this might be a group to worry about.
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True, but the problem is politics keeps changing, so we can't really predict if he'll keep his word. The problem he's facing is that we've already seen him in action as the Senate Majority Leader and what has he done on the DA in the past two years? Angle hasn't had the opportunity to act on her extreme stances on immigration because she doesn't have the power to do so but he on the other hand has, and what has he done to move DA/CIR legislation forward? You mean to tell me that if he loses the election he'll still push for the DA? Sure.
They may be words coming from a politician but in his defense he introduced the DA into the DoD bill, which had not been denied in the past 40 or so years so there was some hope it would have gone through if it was not because of the republican filibuster. We need people that favor the bill, he is one that we know to favor the bill and that would vote favorably if it comes up, there are other dems and reps that have given far more ambiguous responses as to their stance or even avoided the subject.
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YEAAAA I will talk some shit right off the bat! ....alright yall ready for the bunker ball busting right now.... Reid is just talking this crap for 3 reasons. 1. Everyone knows hes the latino vote, the Repubs made him out to the the champion of the latinos in almost all of their adds. 2. hes giving an interview at where? univision of course. 3. givin reason one, he is probably careless at this point of the race bc if he loses he can do w.e the hell he wants he aint gonna give two shits what people thinks anymore.

BUT I think he'll definitely introduce it in the lameduck if he loses, for reasons 1 and 3
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can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???
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can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???
From my understanding republicans wont compromise on controversial issues during the lame duck session. If nothing happens in the lame duck session then Dream or CIR will come up for discussion eventually lol
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can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???
I am sure most of the Dem's would vote for it, and we have at least 2 GOP( Bennet, Lugar) senators promising to vote yes if it comes up as a stand- alone. It all really depends on what happens this Tuesday though. If republicans don't do well as expected, i'm sure they won't be as bold and act like they have a mandate from the voters to stop everything the Dems would try to do.
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Harry Reid while losing in polls to controversial Angle, already has the support from the gambling industry despite his stance on many issues not benefiting them financially, that's huge help considering that they provide 17+% of jobs and over a third of the budget for Nevada, they just benefit from having the third most powerful democrat in the house and its their gamble, plus for a state with the largest unemployment in the country it benefits him not only to have his hands tied to projects that have large employee populations but also the support of people with the financial means of ensuring the economy does not make those projects into failures and more unemployment.

As for him confirming that the DA will come up to vote, it is a very risky move, it may seem to cost him the election, but his opponent already has many controversial ads against him and his stance on immigration, might as well accept them as fact, attack substance of the ads that are too extreme from what would actually be the case and hope that because the ads are very controversial it will end up hurting the opponent more then it hurts him.

I really don't know but this stance really churns the waters, its risky but could work, and it peaks my interest in the Nevada election. Its just good news to hear that the DA will come up in lame duck, I am hoping this means as a stand alone and not only an attachment to the CIR.
You're also forgetting the mining industry in rural Nevada -- Elko County to be exact. He has continuously showed support for mining and shut down any legislation hurting the mining corporations (Unemployment is 7% here, and one of the highest incomes per family). I just cannot believe that people are willing to jeopardize their future for giving a shitty ignorant teabagger a senate seat. We need Harry Reid!
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You're also forgetting the mining industry in rural Nevada -- Elko County to be exact. He has continuously showed support for mining and shut down any legislation hurting the mining corporations (Unemployment is 7% here, and one of the highest incomes per family). I just cannot believe that people are willing to jeopardize their future for giving a shitty ignorant teabagger a senate seat. We need Harry Reid!
Recent polls has continuously shown that Reid is trailing Angle badly.

However, the result of the race all depends on the turn out as well.
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Recent polls has continuously shown that Reid is trailing Angle badly.

However, the result of the race all depends on the turn out as well.
That's not exactly true. Recent polls show a very tight race.
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Those figures come from sources tracking the early vote on the ground. Statewide vote totals put out by the secretary of state (not yet official and not including tiny Eureka County) show Democrats lead the early vote by just under 2 percentage points (43-41) – or about 3 percentage points off their 5-point registration edge. But those numbers don't include mail ballots, where Democrats have an edge and boost them just over 2 percent, I am reliably told.
In the U.S. Senate race, I think Harry Reid has a chance to win if that overall edge stays below the historical 6 percent edge the GOP has in midterms – anything more than that and it gets very dicey for him. Not impossible, but difficult.
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Pollsters usually execute the political surveys by making phone calls to a sample set of registered voters. One interesting twist to that process is that many of the young voters under 30 do not have listed land lines; they instead use unlisted cell phone as their primary mode of communication. That's one of the reasons the pollsters were way off on Hilary Clinton during the New Hampshire primary in 08. I am hoping for a similar anomaly this time around. Perhaps the polls included only older register voters who have land lines. And older people are more likely to lean conservative than the younger voters.
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