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Alderman calls on Obama to enact Dream Act

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01-14-2011, 05:27 PM
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Alderman Ed Burke is reaching into the 19th century to promote a moratorium on deportations.

Now that the Dream Act has been killed in the U.S. Senate, Burke is calling on President Obama to use his executive power to enact it anyway.

In one of the longest reaches here at City Hall lately, Burke made this argument why it’s appropriate for the city council to make this request of the president.

“You know what, in the 1850’s, this city council passed a resolution that prohibited the enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Act here in Chicago so that officials here in Chicago couldn’t cooperate with marshals that were tracking down fugitive slaves,” Burke said.

In any case, Dream Act opponents say it really amounts to amnesty.

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damn....ok ok ok...too bad it's not gonna happen.
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Comparing this issues to slavery is a horrible comparison and one that has pissed off afro americans more than anyone as already shown so why do people keep pissing off the same people and thinking there is change on the way. Here is a quick hint for this Ahole. Slaves were taken against there will by there own country and sold to American into slavery for a 100 years they are owed graditude for what white farming southerns did to them. Illegal immigrants were not asked to come to this country and were not bought or sold there is not one comparable faction.
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01-14-2011, 09:10 PM
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Comparing this issues to slavery is a horrible comparison and one that has pissed off afro americans more than anyone as already shown so why do people keep pissing off the same people and thinking there is change on the way. Here is a quick hint for this Ahole. Slaves were taken against there will by there own country and sold to American into slavery for a 100 years they are owed graditude for what white farming southerns did to them. Illegal immigrants were not asked to come to this country and were not bought or sold there is not one comparable faction.
Actually the context of the argument share similarities to the issue of fugitive slaves. Remember the slaves ran from the south to the north seeking freedom and a better life. I understand where you coming from that slavery is a different issue than illegal immigration, but what he is talking about is that the city of Chicago had the ability to place an ordinance to act as a sanctuary for slaves to stay, acting against the fugitive laws place in the 50s.
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Actually the context of the argument share similarities to the issue of fugitive slaves. Remember the slaves ran from the south to the north seeking freedom and a better life. I understand where you coming from that slavery is a different issue than illegal immigration, but what he is talking about is that the city of Chicago had the ability to place an ordinance to act as a sanctuary for slaves to stay, acting against the fugitive laws place in the 50s.

The context which has been used during the past years does nothing more than piss afro American off who legally vote in elections. It infuriates them and has caused grief on this cause using comparison to slavery has the reverse effect. He could of used 1000 different comparison but he wants to put the two together to have people think the illegal immigration debate has the same likening to slavery. Slavery is fireball issue about taking civil rights has nothing to do with Illegal immirgration. For example look what happened in Kosovo when group of illegals came in and started demanding civil rights in a country not of there own. This would be a better comparison.
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The context which has been used during the past years does nothing more than piss afro American off who legally vote in elections. It infuriates them and has caused grief on this cause using comparison to slavery has the reverse effect. He could of used 1000 different comparison but he wants to put the two together to have people think the illegal immigration debate has the same likening to slavery. Slavery is fireball issue about taking civil rights has nothing to do with Illegal immirgration. For example look what happened in Kosovo when group of illegals came in and started demanding civil rights in a country not of there own. This would be a better comparison.
I understand how comparing the plight of undocumented students to slavery could draw ire from many. However, speaking of the despair and struggles that potential DREAM Act beneficiaries face in terms of overall civil rights, and more specifically aspects of the African-American Civil Rights movement, is not unfounded. In many ways, we undocumented students face similar discrimination not so much due to race, though that is a factor, but more so due to our status, or lack thereof.

As such, we are segregated from schools, disenfranchised from the democratic process, exploited at work, and often are victims of violence.

Further, your Kosovo example is not a better comparison for the simple, but absolutely crucial mistake that you made be equating DREAM Act beneficiaries to illegal aliens who enter into a country under their own volition.

We did not choose to enter this country illegally, but like the children of the early generations of African Americans, have grown up and spent the majority of our lives in this nation.

We wish for some simple opportunities to become legal, and we are even willing to pay a fine for an offense that we unknowingly committed.

At the heart of the matter, we believe with ever facet of our bodies that The United States of America is our home, and indeed we know no other. We have so much to offer, and we wish to help transform this great nation into "the shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
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Wow, forgive my naivety.

I just reviewed some of theboys2010's posts and realized that he fits all the characteristics of a Troll.

Sigh. He has been reported.
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The context which has been used during the past years does nothing more than piss afro American off who legally vote in elections. It infuriates them and has caused grief on this cause using comparison to slavery has the reverse effect. He could of used 1000 different comparison but he wants to put the two together to have people think the illegal immigration debate has the same likening to slavery. Slavery is fireball issue about taking civil rights has nothing to do with Illegal immirgration.
Im not comparing the issue of illegal immigration with slavery but just explaining the similarities of the fugitive slave laws and deportations. The issue he is talking about is the refusal to send fugitive slaves to the south not slavery per se.
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