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The 2012 presidential election reform gag
11 million immigrants between dream and nightmare
MIAMI, Florida - It's no secret that the 2011 looks bad for the U.S. undocumented . "I see nothing clearly," said Juan T, a Mexican immigrant who lives and works in an agricultural field in Homestead, south of Florida. "I've been waiting nine years, working from dawn to dusk and paying taxes. My children are growing and hidden live as if we were criminals."
In 2010 it set a record deportations of more than 392.000 and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said this year the policy remains unchanged. In turn, the Senate twice rejected the Dream Act bill, which recommended granting residency to nearly one million students who entered the United States as children and have no residence permit granted by the immigration service.
So, " what is the future of immigration reform ? Do you dare Congress to approve the legalization of millions of illegal immigrants and curb the anti-immigrant wave that broke in late 2006, when Republicans stopped the conference committee to reconcile two projects, one of which allowed for the legalization of at least 9 of the 11 million undocumented immigrants?
Severe speech
As John T. (Who requested his identity subject to arrest by federal authorities and deported to his native town of Ixtahuacán del Rio in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico), nothing is clear. The hardline republican party controls the House of Representatives after the election victory in November halftime last year, ensure that there will be no debate in 2011, but know that if they do something about it will not get the necessary votes to win the 2012 presidential election, when choosing the new occupant of the White House.
Meanwhile, the Democrats are trying to solve a complicated puzzle that have failed to resolve the two-year administration of President Barack Obama: get bipartisan support for a project that not only would the residence to 11 million illegal immigrants, but will impact the next election. And they also have an adverse effect in the case of not changing the immigration laws in the next 12 or 18 months.
"Most of the comments of the analysis done up to an hour show that will be a very difficult year," said Clarissa Martinez de Castro Univision.com, Director of Campaigns and Migration Policy of the National Council of La Raza (NCLR) , the largest Hispanic group in the United States. "But at the same time I think the Republicans have a challenge and obviously already started making their calculations for the election of the first Tuesday in November 2012."
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For La Raza, the Republican party's political math is simple: they need 40 percent of the Hispanic vote to win, while Democrats needed 60 percent. "As long identified as an anti-immigrant or anti-Latin party, they will make it very difficult to overcome or reach that quota," said Martinez.
Why then insist on hand to charge the anti-immigrant policies? why pursue proposals, such as changing the Amendment 14 of the Constitution to deny citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born on U.S. soil? Are we witnessing a war whose sole purpose is to conquer the White House?
"Obviously they are making their calculations for the election of 2012," said Martinez. And I began to make changes that go unnoticed to the naked eye but the eye of the expert constitute evidence, evidence of a strategy aimed at a clear goal: Stiffle President Obama. "I think Representative King, of Iowa, which ultimately was not as head of the immigration subcommittee, is an inclination" that shows a change in strategy.
Quieter, justas hard
Steve King was taken off the train taking him to the head of the immigration subcommittee of the House of Representatives and instead was named the California legislature Elton Gallegly, who has similar views to those of King, but his party believes that could emit less explosive comments to avoid leakage of Hispanic voters. But as it is an opponent of immigration reform and reject the legalization of the undocumented.
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The point, however, is the presentation of anti-immigrant and distancing plans for immigration reform. "They (the hardline Republicans) are looking for a legal challenge. They know to pass a law like this, either federal or state level will be very difficult. What they are looking for is to go to the Supreme Court to try to reinterpret Amendment 14 of the United States Constitution, "said the activist.
Jorge Mario Cabrera, director of Communications for the Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), California, 2011 will not only be a year where there may be no immigration reform debate in Congress, but " some committees in the House will pressure the executive branch to business, the workplace, use E-verify (the federal employment verification), and for the Bureau of Customs and Border Control (ICE) sport detainees more easily through programs such as Safe Communities (Secure Communities) and 287g Plan. "
He added that the confidence of the immigrant community in the House of Representatives is low and that "everything can be expected (in this instance the legislature), especially the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration issues. In fact, the first day that Congress began working several members of Congress held a press conference to indicate that one of his priorities would be the removal of citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. "
Arizona law
Failure to approve an immigration reform or the "inaction" of the Congress on this sensitive issue stokes anti-immigrant climate unleashed from the first days of June 2006, when then Republican leadership in Congress stopped the Conference Committee, a body consonance two laws passed by Congress, which authorized a residence for illegal immigrants who lacked a criminal record.
After the brake is signed into law the wall and in the course of the next two years, at least 30 states were discussed more than 1,400 anti-immigrant laws that prohibit renting homes and businesses hire illegal immigrants, require companies to register in federal employment verification, punish the illegal contract, granted extraordinary powers to the local police (state and federal) to arrest illegal immigrants and, as in the case of Arizona, the state criminalizes undocumented in the other states remains a character fault not criminal offense.
"I fear that in the absence of positive movement at the federal level to fix the immigration laws in 2011 will see many more efforts to resemble SB1070 Arizona," said Cabrera. "They may try to change or amend local laws in cities that do not support immigrants. Unfortunately, the next two years, we believe, will be fighting rather than getting legislative achievements for the immigrant community."
Martinez has a similar view to that of Cabrera. "Unfortunately, we know that there are several states where legislators are going to bring these laws. But it is important to distinguish between places where there are lawmakers who have said they want to do this and where there is a threat that could really lead to something. The biggest threat is so far in Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, "he said.
The list of states where the debate was announced immigration laws also includes Arizona, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Idaho, Indiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah.
"And then what?
The distribution of power in Washington DC can lead to severe stagnation in the immigration reform debate in Congress, worse than seen in the past two years. While the Republicans have control of the House of Representatives, Democrats are the majority in the Senate and President Obama has in his hands the power of veto in the case that Republican proposals are imposed on both full.
What happens then? What is expected in the coming months? "The cowardice and lack of creativity on the part of the 'body politck' is such that we do not have much hope that the Democrats or Republicans will submit a proposal to ease the suffering of the immigrant community," said Cabrera. "However, it is worth remembering that the two times it has been approved major immigration legislation has been under Republican leadership, not a Democrat."
"We are pushing to have the responsibility by Congress. Because while they do not present solutions, states will be following a path that is often in conflict with a solution to the problem," Martinez said. "We have to stop the tough policy that has already been performing for over 10 years and has not led to the solution (...). The challenge is that political leaders respond to what is the attitude of the public, because in reality the American people are quite frustrated with the lack of resolution on this issue and calls for immigration reform. "
"This year we will see if (Republicans) can move it (immigration reform) and moderate some of these positions as radical as they pursue racial profiling and violate the Constitution (with the changes or modifications to Amendment 14)" added.
Cabrera holds the same dream shared by 11 million illegal immigrants hiding in the shadows of despair and fear. "I think the history of this country will be repeated and that very soon the balance will tilt in our favor. The work of us as individuals and organizations is to shorten the suffering and speed up the implementation of laws more humane, more just , more in keeping with the values that make us proud both as free democracy, "he said.
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2011 looks bad for the U.S. undocumented
Lurking specter of deportation nationwide
The defeat of the party of President Barack Obama joined the rejection of the Dream Act in the Senate on December 18, conditions that left the door open for the resurgence of old and niuevas anti-immigrant initiatives, including taking away citizenship to children of illegal immigrants and imitations of Arizona law SB1070. Undoubtedly the year 2011 does not look good at all.
And all this is the warning from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that will not stop raids or arrests, mostly of foreigners with criminal records.
The ashes
The second threat is another bill that also inconclusive introduced to Congress in 2005 and discussed at the level of commissions in 2006 and which failed for lack of votes. Corresponds to the immigration reform plan promoted by Senators Kyl and John Cornyn (Texas), based on a massive range of voluntary departure to end, within a period not exceeding five years, illegal immigration in America.
Called "An Act for better policing and immigration reform, the project opens a path back to their countries of origin of these illegal who qualify for temporary work visa. Each undocumented, said he must ask "voluntarily" return to their country of origin in order to apply for re-entry "through legal channels."
One of those "legal channels," Kyl said in early 2006, "would be through a previous registration in the temporary worker program, a project that President George W. Bush insisted, but Congress dismissed for lack of bipartisan support.
Outlook uncertain
"Everything is possible in 2011," said Juan Jose Gutierrez, director of Latino Movement USA in Los Angeles to analyze the scenario of immigration reform in 2011. "But we must not lose sight of is the 2012 presidential election, when we choose the president of the United States. And both Democrats and Republicans know that without the Latino vote are not guaranteed the White House. "
She added that "very likely" anti-immigrant bills, as the debate on Amendment 14 or the Kyl-Cornyn plan to be put on the agenda, but that does not mean it will become law. "The Democrats still control the Senate and I doubt that these initiatives beyond the veto of President Barack Obama."
"Republicans really sober are concentrated in the White House know that the anti-immigrant sign is not helpful. Helped them to regain the House of Representatives, but will not help to regain the presidency. For that they need at least 30% of the Hispanic vote and immigration reform is the project ensures that support, "he said.
The exit plan
The immigration reform bill suggested by Kyl and Cornyn in 2005 had as its aim the strengthening of law enforcement and border security, also increase the liability of employers and more effectively regulate the flow of temporary workers into the United States.
The program would qualify the majority of the 11 million illegals living in the United States, after a severe identity register by the DHS.
In addition to providing temporary employment visas, the project provided "incentives" additional for foreigners who want to leave the U.S. immediately and recommended a term of five years for full implementation.
The immigrants to leave the U.S. within the first year of operation, indicated the project would not be fined. But those who do so thereafter, pay a fine for each day of illegal stay in the country.
Deportations without brake
Latino presence
After the failure of the vote on the Dream Act on December 18 in the Senate, leaders of national organizations defending the rights of immigrants said they will continue fighting for immigration reform in 2011, although the Republicans control the House of Representatives .
"We will strengthen our voter participation programs and will focus our attention on the 2012 general elections," said Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA).
Gutierrez reiterated that "it is precisely the choice of 2012" which will force the Republicans "to reconsider the immigration reform debate, because they need the Hispanic vote, the same as in 2008 gave victory to President Obama."
Of the 10.2 million Hispanic voters went to the polls, 6.7 million voted for the Democratic candidate who comfortably defeated his Republican rival, Senator John McCain (Arizona).
"In the last debate (on the Dream Act) we managed to increase our presence and demonstrate that our power has weight in Washington DC. We will use this experience to increase it, to convince Deuna Congress once and for all and get a path to legalization for the 11 million undocumented immigrants. That's one of our main goals in 2011, "said the activist.
The 2012 presidential election reform gag
11 million immigrants between dream and nightmare
MIAMI, Florida - It's no secret that the 2011 looks bad for the U.S. undocumented . "I see nothing clearly," said Juan T, a Mexican immigrant who lives and works in an agricultural field in Homestead, south of Florida. "I've been waiting nine years, working from dawn to dusk and paying taxes. My children are growing and hidden live as if we were criminals."
In 2010 it set a record deportations of more than 392.000 and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said this year the policy remains unchanged. In turn, the Senate twice rejected the Dream Act bill, which recommended granting residency to nearly one million students who entered the United States as children and have no residence permit granted by the immigration service.
So, " what is the future of immigration reform ? Do you dare Congress to approve the legalization of millions of illegal immigrants and curb the anti-immigrant wave that broke in late 2006, when Republicans stopped the conference committee to reconcile two projects, one of which allowed for the legalization of at least 9 of the 11 million undocumented immigrants?
Severe speech
As John T. (Who requested his identity subject to arrest by federal authorities and deported to his native town of Ixtahuacán del Rio in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico), nothing is clear. The hardline republican party controls the House of Representatives after the election victory in November halftime last year, ensure that there will be no debate in 2011, but know that if they do something about it will not get the necessary votes to win the 2012 presidential election, when choosing the new occupant of the White House.
Meanwhile, the Democrats are trying to solve a complicated puzzle that have failed to resolve the two-year administration of President Barack Obama: get bipartisan support for a project that not only would the residence to 11 million illegal immigrants, but will impact the next election. And they also have an adverse effect in the case of not changing the immigration laws in the next 12 or 18 months.
"Most of the comments of the analysis done up to an hour show that will be a very difficult year," said Clarissa Martinez de Castro Univision.com, Director of Campaigns and Migration Policy of the National Council of La Raza (NCLR) , the largest Hispanic group in the United States. "But at the same time I think the Republicans have a challenge and obviously already started making their calculations for the election of the first Tuesday in November 2012."
Feedback Subject
For La Raza, the Republican party's political math is simple: they need 40 percent of the Hispanic vote to win, while Democrats needed 60 percent. "As long identified as an anti-immigrant or anti-Latin party, they will make it very difficult to overcome or reach that quota," said Martinez.
Why then insist on hand to charge the anti-immigrant policies? why pursue proposals, such as changing the Amendment 14 of the Constitution to deny citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born on U.S. soil? Are we witnessing a war whose sole purpose is to conquer the White House?
"Obviously they are making their calculations for the election of 2012," said Martinez. And I began to make changes that go unnoticed to the naked eye but the eye of the expert constitute evidence, evidence of a strategy aimed at a clear goal: Stiffle President Obama. "I think Representative King, of Iowa, which ultimately was not as head of the immigration subcommittee, is an inclination" that shows a change in strategy.
Quieter, justas hard
Steve King was taken off the train taking him to the head of the immigration subcommittee of the House of Representatives and instead was named the California legislature Elton Gallegly, who has similar views to those of King, but his party believes that could emit less explosive comments to avoid leakage of Hispanic voters. But as it is an opponent of immigration reform and reject the legalization of the undocumented.
[b]
The point, however, is the presentation of anti-immigrant and distancing plans for immigration reform. "They (the hardline Republicans) are looking for a legal challenge. They know to pass a law like this, either federal or state level will be very difficult. What they are looking for is to go to the Supreme Court to try to reinterpret Amendment 14 of the United States Constitution, "said the activist.
Jorge Mario Cabrera, director of Communications for the Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), California, 2011 will not only be a year where there may be no immigration reform debate in Congress, but " some committees in the House will pressure the executive branch to business, the workplace, use E-verify (the federal employment verification), and for the Bureau of Customs and Border Control (ICE) sport detainees more easily through programs such as Safe Communities (Secure Communities) and 287g Plan. "
He added that the confidence of the immigrant community in the House of Representatives is low and that "everything can be expected (in this instance the legislature), especially the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration issues. In fact, the first day that Congress began working several members of Congress held a press conference to indicate that one of his priorities would be the removal of citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. "
Arizona law
Failure to approve an immigration reform or the "inaction" of the Congress on this sensitive issue stokes anti-immigrant climate unleashed from the first days of June 2006, when then Republican leadership in Congress stopped the Conference Committee, a body consonance two laws passed by Congress, which authorized a residence for illegal immigrants who lacked a criminal record.
After the brake is signed into law the wall and in the course of the next two years, at least 30 states were discussed more than 1,400 anti-immigrant laws that prohibit renting homes and businesses hire illegal immigrants, require companies to register in federal employment verification, punish the illegal contract, granted extraordinary powers to the local police (state and federal) to arrest illegal immigrants and, as in the case of Arizona, the state criminalizes undocumented in the other states remains a character fault not criminal offense.
"I fear that in the absence of positive movement at the federal level to fix the immigration laws in 2011 will see many more efforts to resemble SB1070 Arizona," said Cabrera. "They may try to change or amend local laws in cities that do not support immigrants. Unfortunately, the next two years, we believe, will be fighting rather than getting legislative achievements for the immigrant community."
Martinez has a similar view to that of Cabrera. "Unfortunately, we know that there are several states where legislators are going to bring these laws. But it is important to distinguish between places where there are lawmakers who have said they want to do this and where there is a threat that could really lead to something. The biggest threat is so far in Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, "he said.
The list of states where the debate was announced immigration laws also includes Arizona, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Idaho, Indiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah.
"And then what?
The distribution of power in Washington DC can lead to severe stagnation in the immigration reform debate in Congress, worse than seen in the past two years. While the Republicans have control of the House of Representatives, Democrats are the majority in the Senate and President Obama has in his hands the power of veto in the case that Republican proposals are imposed on both full.
What happens then? What is expected in the coming months? "The cowardice and lack of creativity on the part of the 'body politck' is such that we do not have much hope that the Democrats or Republicans will submit a proposal to ease the suffering of the immigrant community," said Cabrera. "However, it is worth remembering that the two times it has been approved major immigration legislation has been under Republican leadership, not a Democrat."
"We are pushing to have the responsibility by Congress. Because while they do not present solutions, states will be following a path that is often in conflict with a solution to the problem," Martinez said. "We have to stop the tough policy that has already been performing for over 10 years and has not led to the solution (...). The challenge is that political leaders respond to what is the attitude of the public, because in reality the American people are quite frustrated with the lack of resolution on this issue and calls for immigration reform. "
"This year we will see if (Republicans) can move it (immigration reform) and moderate some of these positions as radical as they pursue racial profiling and violate the Constitution (with the changes or modifications to Amendment 14)" added.
Cabrera holds the same dream shared by 11 million illegal immigrants hiding in the shadows of despair and fear. "I think the history of this country will be repeated and that very soon the balance will tilt in our favor. The work of us as individuals and organizations is to shorten the suffering and speed up the implementation of laws more humane, more just , more in keeping with the values that make us proud both as free democracy, "he said.
RELATED ARTICLE
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...lBWEtE5l5wF44g
2011 looks bad for the U.S. undocumented
Lurking specter of deportation nationwide
The defeat of the party of President Barack Obama joined the rejection of the Dream Act in the Senate on December 18, conditions that left the door open for the resurgence of old and niuevas anti-immigrant initiatives, including taking away citizenship to children of illegal immigrants and imitations of Arizona law SB1070. Undoubtedly the year 2011 does not look good at all.
And all this is the warning from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that will not stop raids or arrests, mostly of foreigners with criminal records.
The ashes
The second threat is another bill that also inconclusive introduced to Congress in 2005 and discussed at the level of commissions in 2006 and which failed for lack of votes. Corresponds to the immigration reform plan promoted by Senators Kyl and John Cornyn (Texas), based on a massive range of voluntary departure to end, within a period not exceeding five years, illegal immigration in America.
Called "An Act for better policing and immigration reform, the project opens a path back to their countries of origin of these illegal who qualify for temporary work visa. Each undocumented, said he must ask "voluntarily" return to their country of origin in order to apply for re-entry "through legal channels."
One of those "legal channels," Kyl said in early 2006, "would be through a previous registration in the temporary worker program, a project that President George W. Bush insisted, but Congress dismissed for lack of bipartisan support.
Outlook uncertain
"Everything is possible in 2011," said Juan Jose Gutierrez, director of Latino Movement USA in Los Angeles to analyze the scenario of immigration reform in 2011. "But we must not lose sight of is the 2012 presidential election, when we choose the president of the United States. And both Democrats and Republicans know that without the Latino vote are not guaranteed the White House. "
She added that "very likely" anti-immigrant bills, as the debate on Amendment 14 or the Kyl-Cornyn plan to be put on the agenda, but that does not mean it will become law. "The Democrats still control the Senate and I doubt that these initiatives beyond the veto of President Barack Obama."
"Republicans really sober are concentrated in the White House know that the anti-immigrant sign is not helpful. Helped them to regain the House of Representatives, but will not help to regain the presidency. For that they need at least 30% of the Hispanic vote and immigration reform is the project ensures that support, "he said.
The exit plan
The immigration reform bill suggested by Kyl and Cornyn in 2005 had as its aim the strengthening of law enforcement and border security, also increase the liability of employers and more effectively regulate the flow of temporary workers into the United States.
The program would qualify the majority of the 11 million illegals living in the United States, after a severe identity register by the DHS.
In addition to providing temporary employment visas, the project provided "incentives" additional for foreigners who want to leave the U.S. immediately and recommended a term of five years for full implementation.
The immigrants to leave the U.S. within the first year of operation, indicated the project would not be fined. But those who do so thereafter, pay a fine for each day of illegal stay in the country.
Deportations without brake
Latino presence
After the failure of the vote on the Dream Act on December 18 in the Senate, leaders of national organizations defending the rights of immigrants said they will continue fighting for immigration reform in 2011, although the Republicans control the House of Representatives .
"We will strengthen our voter participation programs and will focus our attention on the 2012 general elections," said Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA).
Gutierrez reiterated that "it is precisely the choice of 2012" which will force the Republicans "to reconsider the immigration reform debate, because they need the Hispanic vote, the same as in 2008 gave victory to President Obama."
Of the 10.2 million Hispanic voters went to the polls, 6.7 million voted for the Democratic candidate who comfortably defeated his Republican rival, Senator John McCain (Arizona).
"In the last debate (on the Dream Act) we managed to increase our presence and demonstrate that our power has weight in Washington DC. We will use this experience to increase it, to convince Deuna Congress once and for all and get a path to legalization for the 11 million undocumented immigrants. That's one of our main goals in 2011, "said the activist.
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02-28-2011, 11:04 PM
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I question the Republicans need 40% of the Hispanic vote know where near that number voted republican in the last election and they now hold a huge margin of state governors. voting majority of the house and larger number in the Senate. I know that many Hispanics voted for Republicans. I do agree with the 60% to the democrats. I also believe that Republicans are going to make it harder for even Hispanics to vote here in Texas.
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ok I don't get this. The La Raza guy says Republicans need 40 percent of the hispanic vote to win, right? But they got 35 percent of the hispanic vote in the november elections, and won the house in a landslide
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