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Sen. Rubio claims the White House is undermining his version of DREAM Act - Page 2

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In this major game of Chess, Rubio has played his second move....chances of deadlock here if this type of rhetoric continues. So the article says and from what I've read, Democratic leadership is willing to work with Rubio. This includes Durbin and Gutierrez. Then why is Rubio blaming the President? The President has nothing to do with passing the Dream Act. Why is he just not focusing with what he's got, and that is allies across the aisle who have votes?!?! Again...if any of you are very optimistic about this, please be cautious, don't be overly optimistic. Be real. We will push for this no doubt but be realistic as well. Don't forget this Cuban senator has been accused of shying away from and he actually has actually ignored immigration reform in the past, he will most likely be Romney's VP, and don't forget this is an election year!
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Holy fucking fried monkey balls. Shit is exciting.
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In this major game of Chess, Rubio has played his second move....chances of deadlock here if this type of rhetoric continues. So the article says and from what I've read, Democratic leadership is willing to work with Rubio. This includes Durbin and Gutierrez. Then why is Rubio blaming the President? The President has nothing to do with passing the Dream Act. Why is he just not focusing with what he's got, and that is allies across the aisle who have votes?!?! Again...if any of you are very optimistic about this, please be cautious, don't be overly optimistic. Be real. We will push for this no doubt but be realistic as well. Don't forget this Cuban senator has been accused of shying away from and he actually has actually ignored immigration reform in the past, he will most likely be Romney's VP, and don't forget this is an election year!
I think Rubio is referring to the rhetoric used by some members of the Obama administration.

Obama might not cast a vote to get Rubio's bill passed. But, the type of rhetoric Obama chooses to use can be very influential because it is done from a position of power. Don't devalue rhetoric bro. It is a powerful fucking tool.

I hope something happens man . . . for you, for me, for all of us, fuck!
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If they have something by tomorrow, they could submit next week. Then the politics really begin. Amendments, etc.
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2face,

This is why Rubio blames Obama:

“One of the things that already been documented is that the White House has been — the articles that have been written, two or three by now, the White House has been calling in DREAM Act advocates and asking them, almost ordering them, not to work with me on this issue,” Rubio said Thursday on the Laura Ingraham radio show. “They have been counting on using this issue as a wedge issue in October to drive up turnout.”

Do you remember those articles a few weeks ago where officials of the Obama administration were trying to undermine Rubio's efforts by trying to discourage DREAM Activists from meeting with Rubio?
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Maybe we will see a sketch of the bill this week?
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peaking to a group of supporters in Chicago on April 6, Gutierrez offered his conditional support for Rubio’s yet-to-be-unveiled DREAM Act approach. “I will support it because it will stop deportations, and if it stops deportations I will support it. It lets ‘DREAMers’ get a work permit — lets them get a driver’s license. They get a non-immigrant visa. There’s no road to citizenship. It’s temporary. It has to be renewed. It’s nothing permanent.”
Gutierrez also took a swipe at President Obama for failing to act on his own, with or without Congress, to change the status of illegal immigrants brought into the United States by their parents.
“There is nothing in Rubio’s proposal,” he said, “that the President of the United States could not administratively do today.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/10/ru...#ixzz1uX1XEXr1
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I gotta say, Rubio is on his way to pulling off the greatest political sleight of hand of the decade. He is proposing what appears to be the same as the last Democratic version of the DA (non-immigrant visas, path to citizenship etc.) yet somehow presenting it as a Republican thing, a "humanitarian issue", and shifting the blame to the Democrats. Ironically, most voters or frankly anyone who is not directly affected by the bill, will not notice the similarity and the Republicans might actually support this.

However, if this one fails then we're done for good, until the next super-majority triple threat, which won't happen for a while, (or until someone comes up with a better slogan than change)
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I gotta say, Rubio is on his way to pulling off the greatest political sleight of hand of the decade. He is proposing what appears to be the same as the last Democratic version of the DA (non-immigrant visas, path to citizenship etc.) yet somehow presenting it as a Republican thing, a "humanitarian issue", and shifting the blame to the Democrats. Ironically, most voters or frankly anyone who is not directly affected by the bill, will not notice the similarity and the Republicans might actually support this.

However, if this one fails then we're done for good, until the next super-majority triple threat, which won't happen for a while, (or until someone comes up with a better slogan than change)
I'm glad someone noticed the similarity between Rubio's DA and the last Dream Act cooked up by Dems. It's a dam shame the last version never got voted on...although Reps probably would have shot it down anyway.

So yes, Rubio is basically taking the last DA proposed and is calling it his own....

Let's make sure everyone knows this.
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I gotta say, Rubio is on his way to pulling off the greatest political sleight of hand of the decade. He is proposing what appears to be the same as the last Democratic version of the DA (non-immigrant visas, path to citizenship etc.) yet somehow presenting it as a Republican thing, a "humanitarian issue", and shifting the blame to the Democrats. Ironically, most voters or frankly anyone who is not directly affected by the bill, will not notice the similarity and the Republicans might actually support this.

However, if this one fails then we're done for good, until the next super-majority triple threat, which won't happen for a while, (or until someone comes up with a better slogan than change)
Yeah guys. This year is going to be fucking crucial. If a Tea-Party-backed Senator cannot lead the charge on providing us with relief, shit is going to look bleak unless DHS gives us work permits.
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