Allies Urge Barack Obama to Go It Alone (Dream Act) - Page 3

What do you think will happen?

This is the most pressure we have seen on EO ever. We are waiting for Rubio's upcoming bill.

These are good signs. But, I feel like Obama will still BS us. I hope he proves me wrong.

Well, it does help put pressure on Obama and Rubio.

I feel the same way you do man. I don't think Obama would consider doing this. He's so concerned for the damn elections.

But again, I hope I am wrong.

IF there is a EO, my money is on a EO that lets us adjust status within the country and/or makes it so the 10 year ban doesn't apply.

Even if the Dreamers have to go back to their home country. It would still be nice if there is a guaranteed return trip back to USA. All you would have to do is land at your home country and take the next flight back to USA right?

It is been thrown around as an idea because should it be challenged in the Supreme Court the one main argument would be that it would interfere with the IRRIRA act which was passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton and became effective in 1996.If the President made it a later year for Registry there is no doubt the EO would be struck down by the Supreme Court.

You can find the original DHS draft document I posted here of the Administrative Options.It basically explains what the President IS capable of and certainly Registry is very much within the President's power.I simply agree with the 1996 Registry option because Permanent Residency is the only cure from removal even though it may not be perfect for all.Those that do not qualify will still be subject to current law unfortunately.

I also think waiving the immigration bars is not feasible because that was implemented by the stricter implementation by IRRIRA.The President would be asking for a lot of trouble with Congress and the Supreme Court if the Immigration bars were waived and all those removed were now eligible to return to the US,imo.


Anyway,Certainly anything that seems to be implemented appears to be cautiously done so on a more permanent basis by the President.

A 1996 registry move would be genius but I would say I would have to be against it. Once Obama signs any executive order related to amnesty for the dreamer segment of the population, that will kill any chance of a legislative dream act ever being supported by republicans, and therefore the very idea and concept of a dream act. Therefore a 1996 registry move would basically eliminate more then half of the dreamer movement, if not the vast majority, and leave them forever in the cold as a untouchable caste destined for self-deportation. This can only be done once and it needs to be done right.

So, in order to basically grant some form of relief to the whole dreamer population, surely an order to halt deportations and grant a temporary work permit lasting up to five years would be helpful( I don't think he'd go far enough to give us the right to adjust status)

Or if he was feeling really ambitious why not combine 1996 registry+ temporary work status for 1997-2007) for the other components of the dreamer population.

if such a drastic move is undertaken, which I'm not sure Obama would even do, he needs to make it as broad as possible.

Moving the registry date to 1996 isn't just about DREAMers, though. It's about the overall immigration movement and if (notice the huge if) he did it, it would be in an effort to help as many of the 11 million undocumented people here as possible. I could see this as a less controversial way to go, in terms of public opinion and CIR.

I agree with you about there being some form of legal status for people who arrived after 1996, but that would definitely be left up to Congress. Moving the date to 1996 would be the only thing the president can do without facing a fight on the basis of unconstitutionality.

But, he won't even man up and sign an EO to halt the deportations of non-criminals and DREAM Act eligible youth. So, I just don't see him looking at this as even an option right now.

True, it would help out everybody who couldn't take advantage of the 1986 reforms and it would be a controversial move but certainly within the realm of possibility for sure and it would provide immense help for all the pre-96ers. But again like you noted and everyone else understands, is he brazen enough to do it, to finally for once stand up for his principles and act strategically, to be the president we desired for him to be. I just don't think he is. Quite frankly I think the man is going to bungle his chances and become a one-term president.