Allies Urge Barack Obama to Go It Alone (Dream Act) - Page 4

i wonder how many ppl here came before 96 ... and moving the registry i think is not a good idea...because it would help other undocumented ppl that aren't dreamers...and a lot of politicians won't like that...they are sympathetic about us because we literally got screwed over by our parents... so we do deserve some kind of relief... it's our parents fault...not be a douche...but it's the truth.

I agree with you that it should be taken but I do also quite believe that if signed, then all post 1996 undocumented immigrants might as well pack their bags because republicans would never even think of entertaining the notion of amnesty ever again. So should it be done? Yes, but it does have a huge trade-off. But again, I always support any notion or law which could help anybody out so if he has the guts to do it, go ahead.

is president Obama really going to sign the dream act by EO i been reading articles
http://www.examiner.com/article/is-o...am-act-amnesty
and if so by when do ya think he will sign it

The issue that will be used against this EO will be the chain migration.

Obama will most likely not have the will to pass an EO right before elections. I would not get my hopes up nor would I even consider it.

If he was serious about immigration we would have an idea by now.

The President is actually using many of his Executive powers right now to implement what he wants in the system because of Republican obstructions in Congress on many differing subjects.I actually think the President should use the 1996 Registry idea as a wider strategy for Congress to implement either piecemeal or wider immigration reforms by a deadline [say Dec. 12. 2012 to raise the stakes]or the pen comes out for the Registry idea.

I agree with you that this is desirable, but let's face the reality. Obama is a career politician and he's not exactly known for being a trendsetter on these controversial issues. Also add in the fact that he can't be seen as too pro-amnesty because of the election or even for the majority of his next term(if he gets it) and I just think that the executive order will not be used. President Obama has never been the friend of dreamers and I don't think he ever will be, why shine the light on a powderkeg issue when it causes you no huge harm at all and won't exactly benefit your political enemy by much either if it remains in the status quo.

If you're Obama you don't want to deflect from your foreign policy successes or even your mild economic recovery success( or any remnant of it) by shining a light on immigration reform. To energize what? a demographic that is still for the moment highly politically dormant and seems as if it'll swing for you regardless.

Also just by looking at the economic climate, I think the fate of the illegal immigration movement is sealed. In times of economic crises there has not ever been recorded one aspect of positive immigration reform, and I think history is really starting to live up it's codes.

I have always been realistic with regard to what is plausible from what is possible,but a Dreamer's situation is simply not all about Politicians,demographics or statistics,you're talking mainly strategy which I use to do quite a few times before but not anymore.One should always separate the wants of Dreamers to move on with their lives as the predominant issue here vs. the strategy that is entailed to get there,whether here or abroad.I think it is also pointless in debating whether an action will take place or not when in most cases it simply nothing we can control.

I suppose we are all frustrated and are loosing hope. As Real ID kicks in, we will be in a really bad situation. EO would be the last thing to hope for since Dream Act and Rubio act are going nowhere.

AFAIK 1996 was first brought up by Former USCIS counsel Roxana Bacon. Why 1996? I have no idea. But it's good to look at the history of this provision.

1) First registry date after enactment in 1929: June 3, 1921
2) 1940 update of the registry date set the new date to: July 1, 1924
3) Third update took place in 1958. The new date was set to: June 28, 1940
4) 1965 update of the registry date set the date to: June 30, 1948.
5) 1986 CIR updated the registry date to : January 1, 1972

No additional update has happened since 1986. Although there is no specific pattern in the interval, it is safe to say that a new update is long overdue.

I agree with several other posters that if Obama updates the registry date by EO, the new date should be in 2000s to cover the maximum number of dreamers and other undocumented immigrants. Still it's curious that Roxana Bacon and a few others picked 1996. I would be interested to know why they were fixated on 1996!

source: http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/A...-0-0-9882.html

Ianus explained why 1996 is the year we've continued to see in this previous post.