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GOP grasps for ideas on immigration

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06-27-2012, 04:58 AM
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McCain, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee who himself has wrestled with the immigration issue during recent campaigns, told reporters he’d like to see Rubio press forward with his narrower DREAM Act plan, which the Arizona senator termed the “Achieve Act.”
“I think there is a majority of us who understand this is a humanitarian issue, a compassionate issue, and we’ve got to resolve it,” McCain said.
Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants and a prospect to become Romney’s running mate, said Tuesday he wasn’t even aware his legislation had a name yet. He said he’ll spend this week gauging the temperature of his 47-member Senate GOP caucus to see if there’s any interest in moving forward with his plan.
But he’s acutely aware that Obama’s executive action effectively killed any momentum behind his three-month-old effort.
“Whether the environment is right for it or not, we’ll see. I think the president’s decision is going to make it harder in the short term to get something done — I hope I’m wrong — but that’s my sense,” Rubio told POLITICO just outside the Senate chamber
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1yywmzNAZ

Rubio is full of crap lol, he knows house republicans will kill his bill, that is why he doesn't want to release it.
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“Clearly, at this point, with the presidential campaign picking up, I think that the Republicans would look to any leadership that might come from [Romney] on that,” Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) told POLITICO. “Any positions Gov. Romney might want to promote would be something that would be followed up on by Republicans.”


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06-27-2012, 07:12 AM
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-OK so maybe because I'm not inbreed, and i actually had to earn my degrees i don't understand this but why does the climate get more difficult if Obama takes a stance and decides he wants to make a policy change?
-If your goal is to pass legislation and you know the other parties goal is the same thing then it should be easier right? You both cant have it all so you both compromise (no)?
-If people in your party feel insulted that the president no longer wanted to wait for their approval for a policy change isn't it your job as a leader and a damn dinosaur to teach younger uneducated members of the house and senate the way things work and what exactly their job is all about and what their responsibilites are and what that job title entails weather it be personal financial gain or real tough to dodge policy change?
-Again maybe im educated, and rational so none of this makes any sense but if one party has a stance the other can take theirs and if their on the same page compromise can be pretty FUCKING easy. Maybe these republicans have to given the wrong kinda bath salts by lobbyist on accident.
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Haha McCain... No more to be said.
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06-27-2012, 08:23 AM
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-OK so maybe because I'm not inbreed, and i actually had to earn my degrees i don't understand this but why does the climate get more difficult if Obama takes a stance and decides he wants to make a policy change?
-If your goal is to pass legislation and you know the other parties goal is the same thing then it should be easier right? You both cant have it all so you both compromise (no)?
-If people in your party feel insulted that the president no longer wanted to wait for their approval for a policy change isn't it your job as a leader and a damn dinosaur to teach younger uneducated members of the house and senate the way things work and what exactly their job is all about and what their responsibilites are and what that job title entails weather it be personal financial gain or real tough to dodge policy change?
-Again maybe im educated, and rational so none of this makes any sense but if one party has a stance the other can take theirs and if their on the same page compromise can be pretty FUCKING easy. Maybe these republicans have to given the wrong kinda bath salts by lobbyist on accident.
Unfortunately, its all a big game in politics and it is all about jockeying for position. The politicians are out there trying to find that niche they can carve up, claim success in it, and use it as leverage to secure their position. You would think every senator is out there in the interest of the people who elected them but that is far from reality for most senators. For the most part, each politician tries to do something that will make them look better in the end within their own respective party, their peers, and for future voters. There is too much influence at play, and most politicians are just part of the political game they find themselves in. Too much of a vote is influenced things such as "will this vote make me electable", etc.
So with everything at play, politicians are hesitant to really make any change.

Rubio spent those 3 months dangling the carrot in front of all us immigrants that he was going to be the one to finally make a successful bill. He got a positive reception when he first announced that he was going to create the new bill. However, like any other politician he spend his time milking his proposal. If he knew that Obama was going to make a play on the issue, I am positive Rubio would have then really attempted to bring something out instead of milking it for whats its worth.
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06-27-2012, 10:24 AM
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I still dont understand how the President's deferred action affected Rubio's bill. All the president did was to give us a temporary relief until something gets done by the Congress. 'The fuck is this guy talking about?
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^ Exactly. Rubio is just full of bullshet.
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I still dont understand how the President's deferred action affected Rubio's bill. All the president did was to give us a temporary relief until something gets done by the Congress. 'The fuck is this guy talking about?
Because he is now no longer the one in the spotlight, and if he introduces his new bill he will have to share the spotlight with Obama. He wanted the credit for giving us a solution all for himself, a lot of self-interest.
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06-27-2012, 12:13 PM
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^^

Obama stole his thunder! In my opinion, if he wants to get ahead of the immigration game, he'd have to come up with something better than a temporary visa. Otherwise, his bill is just as good as what the president did...other than maybe a larger age cap...and may not even pass the conservative congress.
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06-27-2012, 02:00 PM
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McCain and Rubio?

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Ill explain how it affects the GOP mentality in congress. You see immigration is a topic Republicans dont want to touch because what they know they have to do(give us relief) goes against their base's ideals(deport all immigrants, and latinos and blacks and jews). So when something blows up in the news that sounds like "immigrants get some sort of relief" they want to run away from the topic as soon as possible and hope they wont have to talk about it for a long while. All of this so they dont anger the 30% of the population that still votes for them(the likes of people who run the alipac website). So you see, once anyone touches immigration, as least as history tells us, they dont go back to the subject for a long time.

Am I saying this is right? No its fucking stupid politics at its worst, but its still true.
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