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New Advance Parole Info - Page 5

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#41
12-16-2012, 04:18 PM
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Hello folks-

I wanted to chime in with a few clarifications:

First, Entering Without Inspection is NOT a ground of inadmissibility. While it is true that a person that EWId cannot adjust status that is not because they are inadmissible, but rather they do not qualify for the exception to the basic rule of having to go abroad to apply for a visa. Let me givee you an example. Lets say a person Enters Without Inspection, then leaves three months later, they would have no problem getting an immigrant visa (unless they have some other ground of inadmissibility).

More than 180 days of Unlawful Presence followed by a DEPARTURE does trigger a BAR. That BAR is a ground of inadmissibility. The EWI is not. If the BAR is only for unlawful presence, then the new instructions are stating that the Advance Parole will be enough to enter again.

As for whether the airlines would "understand" what advance parole is, I can assure you that the airline personnel are all fully aware of what Advance Parole is and they undergo regular training with the DOS personnel in their country. Advance Parole is not new, this is simply an expansion of eligibility. I do agree that one should get a passport before leaving the country, though.

To those who are saying that they recommend that you wait before traveling, let us be very clear: You MUST wait before traveling. You cannot travel until after your Advance Parole is approved, and at this moment it still is not available for those holding DACA. The current I-131 states that it is not available to DACA holders. By definition, to get DACA one must not have been in some other status. Before any DACA holder can hope to leave the U.S. and return, they need to wait until the final rule is published, the new I-131 is released, and then apply and wait for approval.

I certainly recommend that anyone planning to apply for AP consult an attorney. However I feel that there are many on this site that are hostile towards attorneys. Since there are attorneys, including myself, that offer free consultations, I find it hard to understand why one would choose not to at least ask some questions before proceeding, but I wish all of you the best. There are some people that I have talked to that clearly understood everything and were detail oriented and had easy cases. I told them that they would be fine doing the case on their own. I have talked to other people that felt that they knew everything, but were making basic mistakes. But I can only help people that want to help themselves.

I will be following this and all other DACA related news and posting whatever I find on my Facebook Page. In addition to the Press, and my own 150 plus DACA cases, I am also watching the AILA listserv for experiences of other attorneys for results of cases like borerline cases, misrepresentation cases, flase claim cases, etc.
Thank you for your informative posts on this website, they are very helpful and appreciated.
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12-16-2012, 05:22 PM
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Present Without Admission or Parole [INA § 212(a)(6)(A)(i)]: Individuals present in the U.S. without being admitted or paroled are inadmissible. This ground of inadmissibility will be applied to anyone found within the U.S. who has entered the U.S. without inspection ("EWI").

While it is true that EWI inadmissibility does not apply in case when someone leaves US, however for those currently in US (and note that leaving on AP does not constitute departure) it might definitely be a problem. Especially that one would apply for AP while still in US, meaning still inadmissible under INA § 212(a)(6)(A)(i).
You're protected under DACA. This inadmissibility ground just means that EWIs, though protected by DACA, can't get legal status until the ground goes away. And the ground goes away as soon as you aren't present in the United States. AP is not a departure under 212(a)(9)(B), but there's no way a judge would say about an AP recipient, "well, he's still present in the U.S. even though he's in another country." In other words, the ground goes away when you leave on AP.
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Present Without Admission or Parole [INA § 212(a)(6)(A)(i)]: Individuals present in the U.S. without being admitted or paroled are inadmissible. This ground of inadmissibility will be applied to anyone found within the U.S. who has entered the U.S. without inspection ("EWI").

While it is true that EWI inadmissibility does not apply in case when someone leaves US, however for those currently in US (and note that leaving on AP does not constitute departure) it might definitely be a problem. Especially that one would apply for AP while still in US, meaning still inadmissible under INA § 212(a)(6)(A)(i).
Doesn't advance parole give you parole? Hence why ewi aliens with TPS use advance parole to travel
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12-17-2012, 06:29 PM
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I'm not interested in traveling but apparently from what I see we could use to adjust our status however the only way for me to adjust it is through marriage and that's not happening any time soon and I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of adjusting through marriage so who knows if in the future I'll try this out.

However, I hope those who are dying to travel and visit relatives and study abroad are able to! Good luck!
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12-17-2012, 06:31 PM
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I don't know if we could I think DHS are a little too smart to let us off THAT easy. I mean they are making a whole new section of AP just for us. We wont know until they finalize what they have decided.
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12-17-2012, 06:41 PM
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^True! Either way I won't be applying for it anytime soon because I could use that money for something else...lol
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12-17-2012, 10:31 PM
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I think more than just adjusting status, people fail to look at the big picture. this is supposed to make life easier for us. In the next 4-6 years that we for sure will have daca, there will be instances where we need to travel for whatever reason it is. this is to help us to do that...period. its not necessary to always think of how we can exploit the loophole....just to be able to do the things that any other lpr/citizens/visa holders in this country can do.
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I don't get it you guys, we've been granted DACA and a chance to work HERE legally. Why are some of you happy to be able to WORK or STUDY abroad? Also "Humanitarian purposes"give me a break! I'm not waiting for a relative to die so I can travel abroad.We would need to PROVE USCIS that a relative has passed away with certified proof. Ironically I define this as a non-humanitarian thing to do, show someone who can freely travel around the world that a family member has passed away in order for him/her to let me visit my home country? Am I the only one thinking like this? If anything this AP updated upsets me.
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I get sorta of the same indication that DACA will play some sort of role in transitioning to some form of status.It is like the stage is set already with regards to background checks and evidence so it would be very easy for USCIS to issue documentation should the Congress ultimately pass a favorable bill to Dreamers.I still do think DACA is temporary until the Congress ultimately acts on this issue.

So far DHS has been extremely favorable with its discretion under this President,but I think ultimately Dreamers are still way too laxed concerning the information DHS and ultimately something will have to give under the term of this Administration as we're simply relying on a "hope" that the President will get something done.

I think the AP will also be favorable dependent on the implementation and language.
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