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02-17-2013, 11:30 PM
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Oh, no, we are not - if Obama orders DHS to act. Under the law, Napolitano has the authority to order a registration program for the current undocumented population or subsets as they did with DACA. The joke is on them.

The million dollar question is will Obama/DHS do it?
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^Inciteful post,I think the Administration doesn't have anything to loose at this point and there are some very strong points as to why the Republicans had better think very strategically this time around.

If DACA implementation didn't hurt the President's re-election but helped it what does he have to lose by going even further?I think this is a setup for 2014 if Republicans don't play ball seriously for many reasons to pass a bill.

-If the President decides to play hardball by giving most or if not all undocumented "DACA" he effectively removes the "illegal immigrant" argument since most will more than likely sign-up.

-I read an article that mentioned internal Republicans have indicated they know they are not too popular and could possibly lose the House of Representatives.

-There will be ~1.6 million more latino voters by 2014....

-Republicans can't seem to understand the 'family value' issue in this.US citizens in a mixed status family will do anything to protect their family members no matter the values presented by the candidate and or party!
Lindsey Graham said it best: "We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

Should CIR fail, I do believe the White House will act and that's what's keeping momentum on our side. Republican leadership is probably petrified at the thought of another EO. And I just don't see how they will be able to continue after that. Who will be left to vote for them besides these good people?
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02-17-2013, 11:50 PM
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a CIR HAS to pass at this point if the republicans want a chance at the house in the next election. There is no option either that or Obama does something which piss lots of republicans and seal their fate in not winning the house.
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Lindsey Graham said it best: "We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

Should CIR fail, I do believe the White House will act and that's what's keeping momentum on our side. Republican leadership is probably petrified at the thought of another EO. And I just don't see how they will be able to continue after that. Who will be left to vote for them besides these good people?
There are 2 other points that are also starting to evolve in this debate just like before.Republican restrictionist groups are trying to use the old race by interest card by indicating legalization would hurt "The Blacks" with regards to jobs.There is also the issue of the ICE union wanting a seat at the negotiation table for CIR.....but I think it is definitely not for the purpose of giving immigration enforcement input for reform but simply to keep their jobs!


A legalization program would more than likely cut back on ICE special agent numbers as the Government will in the future look towards new ways of cutting back on spending if reformation of US immigration law included a legalization aspect for the majority of the undocumented.I say this simply because I don't see the Customs and Border Patrol union asking for a seat at the negotiation table as they will more than likely be expanded tremendously under reform.Legalization would make ICE enforcement less relevant on the interior with a newly legalized population so I fully expect restrictionist and Government interior enforcement to lobby for a segment of the undocumented to NOT be legalized.

Restrictionist groups are also making every argument imaginable to ensure less individuals become apart of the United States if they are simply "foreigners" and making the argument of less resources being available to minorities simply because of "foreigners" is quite a lame argument.I would think African Americans would be more concerned about the issue of high incarceration rates of any minority group including brown or black foreigners and demanding questions as to why the US Government still reacts this way in modern times.I see a spade I call it a spade.
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