Organized labor says closer to deal on immigration reform

If Labor and Business can unite with specific language behind a guestworker program the odds of an immigration deal I think could be better than 50-50.

News great.

Good news!

Don’t you think that the probability for passing is greater than 50-50? What I believe is that there are only two things that can stop passage: the guest worker program and opposition from conservatives.

We can begin ruling out the opposition from the conservative base applying pressure to their politicians based on the tea party. You have Rand and Rubio, both easily 2016 presidential candidates, supporting the principles in the Senate Bill. Then lets add the polling in South Carolina and Iowa; two very conservative states. However, a majority of republican primary voters are for the CIR bill.

I just believe that nobody really cares about the morals of documenting the undocumented. When I say nobody I mean the people that really matter. The people that run things. Its all about the guest worker. Despite ALL of the complexities in overhauling the immigration system the ONLY topic still being debated is the wages of the guest worker.

A brief survey of US history lets you know what’s going on. History repeats itself. This country has been built on cheap exploitive labor. Whether its from people picking cotton, or mining gold, or harvesting crops there has always been the need for cheap unskilled labor. But in modern times, and to the dislike of big business that needs cheap labor, America has labor laws establishing a minimum wage. Also Americans in general have a higher standard of living and are not willing or able to accept those jobs at those wages.

Look at this article from the LA Times in 1985 about the guest worker. It is the same exact thing that is going on today: http://articles.latimes.com/1985-09-...1_harvest-time

Think about it. This is America. We’re talking about the country that spends more on its military than all of the rest of the world combined. This is the country that can pull $700 billion out of thin air to give to banks that behave recklessly. This is the country that can literally invade and occupy another country off the premise of “weapons of mass destruction” and never find them even 10 years later.

Are you telling me it can’t secure its southern border? Does that make sense? The reason why we had the influx of illegal border crossings is because it was wanted. Its simple Economics. A surplus of low skilled workers leads to lower wages which leads to higher profits.

There’s a reason why the enforcement measures from 1986 were not enforced. Its because they were not wanted, but the labor was. Now lets fast forward to 2013. The reason that there is pressure on the Republican party to support the “documentation of the undcoumentated” is because the US citizen children of those workers that they let in are now young and voting Democratic. They apparently didn’t see this coming with their lax border policies and probably more people came in than they expected. The Tea party tried to fight the tide for a while but they even know that they can’t fight the numbers.

So now we’re at the point where the Republicans are supporting a pathway to citizenship but there is still the issue of the indentured servants. If you document those who are undocumented , ie awarding them RIGHTS and FREEDOMS, who do you have to EXPLOIT? That’s why they need the guest worker. A person with the ability to gain education and learn skills is no longer exploitable. They will not work for those wages. So you need a steady flow of exploitable people. And you don’t only need them to be here but you need to be able to pay them less than what you would pay Americans!! That’s what’s going on with this bill.

Reference the 1985 article and how similar it is to today’s discussion and remember that despite ALL of the things that are going into this bill (the 2007 bill was 700+ pages), the only thing that is still a problem is a steady flow of cheap, exploitable labor. Once this is hammered out I see no other resistance in the way of CIR. Its passing this year.

The “fruit growers” no longer have the complete leverage over republicans as they did with the passage of the ’86 bill and the derailing the 07 (remember the 07 bill failed because the guest worker program ended in 5 years) because now the republicans’ chances to gain the white house shrink every single month.
TLDR:

Once the guest worker wages are figured out CIR passes

/end rant

No,because I think more strategically on if an immigration overhaul can simply pass just one in a multitude of partisaned and complex stages within the confines of the place called Congress based on the immigration language and at what stage it is in.I also think one should think of every immigration effort as being unique because no past and present sworn in Congresses are alike.

I've always given any reform effort its due caution and irregardless of if the articles may seem on point with certain information I just treat it as such and reserve judgment when action has actually taken place.

Yup.. You're absolutely right.. And P.S. I'd love to see Rand Paul become the president in 2016.. He kinda reminds me of John F Kennedy

Good stuff. Lets hope they come to an agreement.