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Keep calm everyone ..Author of Heritage Immigrant study Resigns - Page 2

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05-10-2013, 08:25 PM
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Seriously? This is the guy who's using flawed statistics to do his best to keep you from getting legal status. This guy's only agenda is to deport you, not to encourage science. Do you know nothing about the Heritage Foundation?
I do not find it in good taste to slam someone's thesis on the basis that you find its implications uncomfortable. You say that his statistics are flawed. Very well, explain what exactly he is doing wrong in the statistics. Attack the methodology.

Saying, "RACIST!" doesn't resolve anything. It doesn't win anyone over to our side. To the contrary it causes us to lose support. Our case cannot rest on emotion. It must rest on facts.

And so what is the Heritage Institute is behind this? Is anything produced by the Heritage Institute automatic garbage? Are you going to dismiss the findings of anyone who has ever been opposed giving us legal status? I know it is very tempting to do so, but we mustn't. We must be better than that.

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Correlating inflammatory data to race is idiotic, especially when the samples are not accurate representations of the group of people you are attempting to study. Hispanics, FFS, we all know that any person from any race can be Hispanic, what's more ridiculous is that IQ tests are known to be culturally and socioeconomically biased. I wouldn't be surprised if you supported eugenicists on the lone basis that they are doing science.
Again, argue the methodology. Put emphasize on IQ tests have biases in them. Do not simply fall to the level of calling him a racist.

You have all been, presumably, trained better during your collegiate studies. Please show the fruits of that training by improving the manner in which you respond to these sort of things. Haven't you all realized by now that this forum is read by those who oppose giving us legal status? When they read these forums and find poorly thought out posts they reinforce their view that we're trash. Prove them wrong by making better posts.
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05-10-2013, 08:43 PM
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I do not find it in good taste to slam someone's thesis on the basis that you find its implications uncomfortable. You say that his statistics are flawed. Very well, explain what exactly he is doing wrong in the statistics. Attack the methodology.

Saying, "RACIST!" doesn't resolve anything. It doesn't win anyone over to our side. To the contrary it causes us to lose support. Our case cannot rest on emotion. It must rest on facts.

And so what is the Heritage Institute is behind this? Is anything produced by the Heritage Institute automatic garbage? Are you going to dismiss the findings of anyone who has ever been opposed giving us legal status? I know it is very tempting to do so, but we mustn't. We must be better than that.



Again, argue the methodology. Put emphasize on IQ tests have biases in them. Do not simply fall to the level of calling him a racist.

You have all been, presumably, trained better during your collegiate studies. Please show the fruits of that training by improving the manner in which you respond to these sort of things. Haven't you all realized by now that this forum is read by those who oppose giving us legal status? When they read these forums and find poorly thought out posts they reinforce their view that we're trash. Prove them wrong by making better posts.
Oh please, the fact that he's a racist prick is axiomatic. The organizations he associated himself with and the type of work he did show this.

And who the fuck cares who reads this website? The people in here are not representative of the whole DREAMer population--it doesn't take much logic to arrive to that conclusion. Any comments found on this website would never make it to the mainstream news and if they did they would have absolutely no effect because 1) The really incendiary content is removed 2) Anyone from anywhere in the world can post here 3) Government funded studies are the foundation of rulemaking so any bullshit is dispelled.

Calm the fuck down
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05-10-2013, 09:29 PM
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05-10-2013, 09:41 PM
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well... the guy is sacked. excuse me, i mean he resigned. give him a rope I can almost imagine what he would do. It doesn't require as much as a 101 level course to tell his research is baseless garbage. so just move on.
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05-10-2013, 10:16 PM
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I do not find it in good taste to slam someone's thesis on the basis that you find its implications uncomfortable. You say that his statistics are flawed. Very well, explain what exactly he is doing wrong in the statistics. Attack the methodology.

Saying, "RACIST!" doesn't resolve anything. It doesn't win anyone over to our side. To the contrary it causes us to lose support. Our case cannot rest on emotion. It must rest on facts.

And so what is the Heritage Institute is behind this? Is anything produced by the Heritage Institute automatic garbage? Are you going to dismiss the findings of anyone who has ever been opposed giving us legal status? I know it is very tempting to do so, but we mustn't. We must be better than that.



Again, argue the methodology. Put emphasize on IQ tests have biases in them. Do not simply fall to the level of calling him a racist.

You have all been, presumably, trained better during your collegiate studies. Please show the fruits of that training by improving the manner in which you respond to these sort of things. Haven't you all realized by now that this forum is read by those who oppose giving us legal status? When they read these forums and find poorly thought out posts they reinforce their view that we're trash. Prove them wrong by making better posts.
Once again, are you not familiar with the Heritage Foundation? Do you seriously think that they have any desire whatsoever to release an unbiased study? They are the think tank that feeds talking points to all the right wing talk shows - the same talkshows that spend all day belittling immigrants and fighting any kind of immigration reform. If you can't see that then you have no credit here or are being a troll.

For me, the IQ test is just the icing on the cake, but even the Heritage Foundation is distancing themselves from him so that should tell you something. Regarding his study on how much legalization would cost was already discredited before this IQ business came out. Do you support his study on how much legalization would cost too? Do you think you are going to be a burden on the country? If so, what the hell are you doing here? This is a pro immigration reform website just as the other side is against it. Go join them. Self deport, brother. You are too smart for us here.

"Leave the guy who wants to deport us alone! Think of the Thesis! The Thesis!" Get out of here. I hope that SOB does read this. Maybe you're him. All your posts are about political issues and I doubt you are even an immigrant.
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