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Obama, Dems huddle on immigration

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06-13-2013, 01:53 PM
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President Obama will meet Thursday with the four Senate Democrats who crafted a bipartisan immigration reform bill.

Obama will meet with Sens. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), Dick Durbin (Ill.), Robert Menendez (N.J.) and Michael Bennet (Colo.) — as well as Sen. Patrick Leahy (Vt.), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

The Senate began debating the bill this week amid growing momentum for the bill.

On Tuesday, Obama told lawmakers the “moment is now” to pass immigration reform at a rally with labor and business leaders and students who are in the U.S. illegally at the White House.

“If you're serious about actually fixing the system, then this is the vehicle to do it," Obama said. "If you're not serious about it — if you think a broken system is the best America can do, then I guess it makes sense to block it.”

Carney said Thursday that the White House is “heartened” by progress, before adding more work must be done.

“The president’s interest is in the Senate recognizing that we have a unique opportunity that has been a long time coming and isn’t likely to come again any time soon if we don’t seize it to pass comprehensive immigration reform with bipartisan support,” Carney added.

Some lawmakers have suggested Obama should stay away from the debate over the bill, and that his interference could hurt its prospects.

“The biggest obstacle to passing common-sense immigration reform is President Barack Obama,” Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) told ABC News on Monday.

Cruz also suggested Obama had designed the immigration bill, which includes a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants, to fail in the House as leverage for political gain.

“It is designed for it to sail through the Senate and then crash in the House to let the president go and campaign in 2014 on this issue,” Cruz said.
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Cruz also suggested Obama had designed the immigration bill, which includes a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants, to fail in the House as leverage for political gain.
My biggest fear. I sincerely HOPE President Obama is willing to sit down with House Dems and Repubs too about this.
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Cruz is just stirring the pot. If comprehensive immigration reform doesn't pass the House, it's the House's fault. Obama DID NOT DESIGN the immigration bill; clearly the gang of eight bill and Obama's proposed outline has similarities, but that's expected. What would you expect out of almost any other Democratic party member regarding a pathway to citizenship?

Let's be honest here, Cruz suggested that so that Republicans could gain some political leverage if they fail to pass CIR. (I think there is a psyc concept that fits here.. projecting?)
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My biggest fear. I sincerely HOPE President Obama is willing to sit down with House Dems and Repubs too about this.
This makes no sense. Obama is not running for office ever again. There is no "political benefit" to seeing his top legislative priority for his second term to fail. It will only make him look like an ineffectual lame duck. If anything, he would be looking to burnish his legacy by passing CIR.

The only question at this point is whether John Boehner wants CIR to succeed or fail. If he does, he will bring it up for a vote in the House so that it can pass with Democratic votes plus some Republicans. If he doesn't, he will not bring it up for a vote.
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If you've been reading the articles, it seems Boehner wants to pass Immigration reform and would likely violate the hastert rule in order to pass it, just like he did for the other bills.
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If you've been reading the articles, it seems Boehner wants to pass Immigration reform and would likely violate the hastert rule in order to pass it, just like he did for the other bills.
He has not ruled it out, but he has not come out and fully committed to it either. A lot of vague talk about "letting the House work its will" and so forth. It's true that he has made some comments hinting at support for immigraton reform, so hopefully he is prepared to abandon the Hastert Rule (which he's already done a few times this year) and let the House vote. Paul Ryan's support also probably helps.
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