Senators reach border deal, smoothing path to immigration overhaul - Page 2

Tonyhasadream · 06-20-2013, 02:38 PM

Does the fence have to be completed before legalization starts?

CIR_DREAM2009 · 06-20-2013, 02:59 PM

Here's an article on how the Israeli security fence would relate to an American one although the Israeli security fence is state of the art and have been extremely effective in stopping incursions (for good or ill depending on which side you're on in that Middle Eastern conflict). I don't know, if this thing passes, if they'll opt for this type (trenches, parallel roads, an actual freaking wall) or some type of "virtual" fence with just cameras and stuff.

The Israeli security fence is 400 miles and this proposed fence is 700 so they're pretty comparable.

What America can learn from Israel's West Bank barrier

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As such, the Israeli fence is very efficient. The number of fatalities from terror attacks within Israel dropped from more than 130 in 2003 to fewer than 25 in 2005. The number of bombings fell from dozens to fewer than 10. The cost for Israel is in money and personnel; the cost for Palestinians is in unemployment, health, frustration, and blood. The demographic benefit—keeping out the Palestinians—is just another positive side effect for the Israelis.

No wonder the fence is considered a good deal by those living on its western side. But applying this model to the U.S.-Mexico border will not be easy. U.S. citizens will find it hard to justify such tough measures when their only goal is to stop people coming in for work—rather than preventing them from trying to commit murder. And the cost will be more important. It's much easier to open your wallet when someone is threatening to blow up your local cafe.

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The more you answer these questions the Israeli way, the more unbeatable your fence will be. But don't forget: Years of terror attacks hardened Israelis' hearts toward their neighbors (just as years of occupation hardened Palestinians' hearts toward Israelis). This brought them to a point where they were ready to do whatever it took to make the bloodshed stop. So, here's an easy way to figure out if an American fence will work: Measure the anger and despair. Has it grown big enough to make that same commitment?

There's no enmity between the American and Mexican people except from those coming from the far right. Such a measure is completely unnecessary and potentially destabilizing between our two peoples all too please and soothe a small segment's paranoid fantasies and fears.

desice · 06-20-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CIR_DREAM2009

Here's an article on how the Israeli security fence would relate to an American one although the Israeli security fence is state of the art and have been extremely effective in stopping incursions (for good or ill depending on which side you're on in that Middle Eastern conflict). I don't know, if this thing passes, if they'll opt for this type (trenches, parallel roads, an actual freaking wall) or some type of "virtual" fence with just cameras and stuff.

The Israeli security fence is 400 miles and this proposed fence is 700 so they're pretty comparable.

What America can learn from Israel's West Bank barrier

There's no enmity between the American and Mexican people except from those coming from the far right. Such a measure is completely unnecessary and potentially destabilizing between our two peoples all too please and soothe a small segment's paranoid fantasies and fears.

Not to mention that Mexico is one of the largest trading partner of the US.

DA User · 06-21-2013, 01:15 AM

I think this is the biggest breakthrough in passing CIR overall folks. I like that they are adding stuff to Border Security which exactly what GOP wants.

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