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Obama: Suspending more deportations not an option - Page 2

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09-18-2013, 10:20 AM
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Thank god... And yes he's absolutely right, it would be ignoring the law and makes our daca status that much less credible. This would hurt daca recipients if he was to stop further deportations.

Sounds like a case of "I got mine, so screw everybody else"
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Sounds like a case of "I got mine, so screw everybody else"
Might sound like it but believe me I didn't forget what it was like being undocumented, I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy, I truly believe if he was to expand it to everyone else, it'd hurt us with daca, don't forget how a couple weeks ago I was saying I'd rather have citizenship for all or nothing. If he expanded it to everyone do you understand what they would do to him in congress? I have no doubt in my mind they'd try to impeach him or vote on a bill immediately removing all current types of executive pardon programs including daca which would result in not only the older people not having a work permit but the younger ones as well, why would I advocate for something that could potentially hurt me? No thank you.
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09-18-2013, 01:16 PM
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Supporting DACA for yourself while denying it for the rest of the Dreamers is the height of hypocrisy. You should be ashamed of yourself , happyman. smh
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09-18-2013, 03:27 PM
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Might sound like it but believe me I didn't forget what it was like being undocumented, I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy, I truly believe if he was to expand it to everyone else, it'd hurt us with daca, don't forget how a couple weeks ago I was saying I'd rather have citizenship for all or nothing. If he expanded it to everyone do you understand what they would do to him in congress? I have no doubt in my mind they'd try to impeach him or vote on a bill immediately removing all current types of executive pardon programs including daca which would result in not only the older people not having a work permit but the younger ones as well, why would I advocate for something that could potentially hurt me? No thank you.
If DACA was was fair - ie. for all Dreamers, you might have a case because after all, many people take pity on Dreamers' plight, but DACA excluded many deserving people such as myself (if I may be so bold). And let's not forget, DACA was tiptoeing on the legal issue too so legally, there is no difference between you guys and everybody else.

By your logic, politically, he would be better off had he not done DACA at all.
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Supporting DACA for yourself while denying it for the rest of the Dreamers is the height of hypocrisy. You should be ashamed of yourself , happyman. smh
the real dreamers ,. are our parents , without them risking it all where would we be ? mexico ...
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If DACA was was fair - ie. for all Dreamers, you might have a case because after all, many people take pity on Dreamers' plight, but DACA excluded many deserving people such as myself (if I may be so bold). And let's not forget, DACA was tiptoeing on the legal issue too so legally, there is no difference between you guys and everybody else.

By your logic, politically, he would be better off had he not done DACA at all.
I can agree with that, older dreamers deserve it but I think the rational behind it is, we have to give it to the one who are still young and have many years left to contribute, a 40 year old dreamer is basically at his end of really contributing much (not saying that statement is true or not) but I do believe that's the reason why he had a cut off age.

And politically, no I don't think he'd be better off because if it wasn't for daca, he wouldn't of had so much support from the immigration community because with he, he showed that he didn't forget about us. I'll be honest, if it wasn't for daca I probably wouldn't want him to get re-elected for the pure fact that he said he'd do something about dreamers and didn't. But he did with daca.
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09-20-2013, 10:14 PM
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Don't get me wrong DACA has been a life changer for me but Obama didn't do this for us he did it for VOTES pure and simple,cause he needed an ace in the whole to get the minority vote...he was in office for 3-1/2 yrs before he used his ace.There is nothing to be gained by an executive amnesty IJS IMO ..
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