Trump - No Mass Deportations

Pianoswithoutfaith · 09-04-2016, 01:12 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/04/politi...ani/index.html

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Washington (CNN)One of Donald Trump's top supporters insisted Sunday that the Republican nominee is backing away from one of his most controversial immigration proposals: mass deportations.
In an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Trump doesn't want to break up immigrant families in America.

Giuliani told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" that Trump "would find it very, very difficult to throw out a family that has been here for 15 years and they have three children, two of whom are citizens. That is not the kind of America he wants."
Giuliani's comments follow a hardline immigration speech Trump delivered last week in Arizona. The former mayor cited an Associated Press report characterizing Trump's comments as "a sharp retreat" from his pledge during the primary season to remove all 11 million undocumented immigrants from the United States.
Still, other Republicans, including Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, rejected the idea that Trump had softened. And Trump's running mate, Mike Pence, and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway were coy on the issue.
Trump's Phoenix speech took a tough line on his signature issue of immigration. He rolled out a list of 10 proposals to crack down on illegal immigration, including building a wall along the US-Mexico border and ramping up deportations of undocumented immigrants who have committed other crimes within the United States.
"In a Trump administration, all immigration laws will be enforced," Trump said. "As with any law enforcement activity, we will set priorities. But, unlike this administration, no one will be immune or exempt from enforcement -- and ICE and Border Patrol officers will be allowed to do their jobs. Anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation -- that is what it means to have laws and to have a country."
Trump in his speech drew a line at any form of amnesty.
"For those here today illegally who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and only one route: to return home and apply for re-entry under the rules of the new legal immigration system that I have outlined above. Those who have left to seek entry under this new system will not be awarded surplus visas, but will have to enter under the immigration caps or limits that will be established."
Trump added: "We will break the cycle of amnesty and illegal immigration. There will be no amnesty."
But on Sunday Giuliani insisted "all 10 policies are largely directed toward criminal illegal immigrants," drawing a distinction between those immigrants and others who haven't broken additional laws in the country.
Giuliani said Trump was calling for the United States to secure its borders and remove those who have committed additional crimes -- and only then address what to do with the majority of undocumented immigrants living in the United States, including so-called "Dreamers" -- undocumented immigrants brought into the country as children.
"That's the point that he was making in the speech, and I agree with you that point got lost to some extent in the emotion of the moment," Giuliani told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" Sunday.
He chalked that emotion up to the parents of Americans slain by undocumented immigrants who shared the stage with Trump, underscoring Trump's call to end so-called "sanctuary cities" that don't deport undocumented immigrants.
Democrats said they weren't buying Giuliani's claims about Trump's stance on immigration.
"Donald Trump should have gone to the Olympics as a gymnast, because there's a lot of contortionism there," said Labor Secretary Tom Perez, a Clinton supporter, on "State of the Union."
He cited Trump's use of a Phoenix-area sheriff known for his sharp crackdown on undocumented immigrants on-stage last week.
"If you're trying to get kinder and gentler, it's a curious strategy to get Joe Arpaio to introduce you at a speech," Perez said. "He stands for what Donald Trump stands for, and that is, Mexicans are 'rapists.'"
Sen. Flake, who isn't yet supporting Trump, told Tapper on "State of the Union" that he didn't get the same message as Giuliani from Trump's speech.
"If it was there, it was buried pretty deep. And no, I didn't catch it," he said of any new indications of Trump's openness to allowing some undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States.
Of Trump's speech, Flake said: "It just really doubled down on a lot of the rhetoric that he used before, and it really didn't explain with any clarity where he's going to move ahead in the future."
Trump's vice presidential pick, Gov. Pence, on Sunday deflected questions about the fate of those undocumented immigrants who haven't committed additional crimes in the United States, on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"With all due respect to the media's focus on the 11 million or whatever that number is, he was focused on the more than 300 million people who are citizens of this country and are here legally in this country, and driving policies in immigration that will work for them, work for the future of our nation," Pence said.
Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway also wouldn't say what Trump's eventual plan for the majority of undocumented immigrants living in the United States would be.
On ABC's "This Week," Conway said that "once you enforce the law, once you get rid of the criminals, once you triple the number of ICE agents, once you secure the southern border, once you turn off the jobs magnet, jobs and benefit magnet, then we'll see where we are."
"And we don't know where we'll be. We don't know who will be left. We don't know where they live, who they are. That's the whole point here, that we've actually never tried this," Conway said. "He will rescind all those executive amnesties and try to work with the Congress. And so at least he's trying to solve a problem."

DogJuiceMan · 02:46 PM

Julialingo is not part of the trump inner circle. If trumps says all illegals are out, it means that. I sat up all night and watched the trump speech, and he named DACA out and said we get kicked out too.

He wants everyone who isn't here legally, out. That simple. Even us DACA holders who have done no crimes other than exist.

I don't trust anything anyone with an R next to their name is saying. Trump spoke clearly and theres no room for julialingo and Co to pussyfoot around and soften what trump made clear. Man, I pray hillary wins and this pompous ass get's his comeuppance.

I used this map to plot clinton progress to victory:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ident_map.html

Is what I got as results if nevada, wis, ohio, and pensylvania, maine goes clinton
AZ, Iowa, Missouri, VA, NC, GA, FL go trump

C/K : 284
T/P: 254

I've been hearing about widespread poll rigging, and if the polls are rigged clinton has a mountain to climb.

If we get kicked out we need to start our own city in Mexico. Bring it up from scratch and work hard for what we'll have.

DACA-IR-DA · 09-04-2016, 03:54 PM

Who cares! He is not going to President nor in Congress.

Got_Daca · 09-05-2016, 07:51 AM

Trump wants to have it both ways. Promises deportations to his base and uses Giuliani to quell Hispanics. Nice try. Not gonna work.

DogJuiceMan · 09-05-2016, 04:44 PM

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2Face · 09-05-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan

what dead language is this?

Look French. The guy must be undocumented in Canada looking for legalization tips.

EdoIsa · 09-05-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face

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He's advertising his plumbing services in French ... it's spam.

DogJuiceMan · 09-07-2016, 12:13 AM

I pray every night so Hillary wins. I pray to Our Lady of Guadalupe, the protector and guide of all Mexicans. You are not Mexican if you have not heard of Virgen Guadalupe.

Only in the most dire of situations do I ask anything from the Virgen Guadalupe. I think this situation is serious enough to ask her to protect her people. When darkness falls, Virgen Guadalupe is the shining beacon of hope.

For those of you that are not Mexican:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

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