Push to Protect ‘Dreamers’ From Trump Gains New GOP Supporters - Page 4

Originally Posted by Laterlater

Your are bit thick.
Yes, elections have consequences.

But in no possible world is having a Republican administration the better outcome.

Before a Republican administration, DACA was the baseline; any legislation was anticipated to help the wider population of undocumented immigrants (i.e. your family who did not qualify).

Post Trump, the horizon has receded; it is at best DACA via legislation, at worst nothing with continued or accelerated deportation, along with an Attorney General and DHS Head who are even less sympathetic.

Basically, what is being offered is: be grateful we won't be deporting you - but your parent and older siblings who aged out - their fucked.

This offering of DACA in legislation - after committees, amendments, and reconciliation etc - assuming it even survives that far - is very likely to be a less generous edition. That is it.

Eva02 is essentially correct on both point, no need for revisionist history, the House votes for the 2013 CIR were there, among the Repub caucus, as they are now, except Boehner would not allow it a simple up-or-down vote for partisan reasons. Passing Bridge Act now would just be a political layup - to take credit for 'doing something'.

Again, elections have consequences, and political realities being what they are, by all means call Republican congressional members in support of Bridge Act. Try to persuade Trump to stick with his nebulous promises. Take part in activism.

But drop the silly and inane illusion that a republican administration, in terms of DACA or immigration as a whole, is to our advantage - despite the counterfactual staring you in the face.

All we are going to get is DACA (maybe; was assured under Dems) and uncertainty. Nothing else is any longer in the cards.

Originally Posted by eva02

This is all about them avoiding negative PR and losing even more ground amongst Latino voters and possibly millenials. We are a sympathetic group of immigrants so the smart thing for them to do is preserve the status quo and carry on with their plans of "securing the border" and deporting criminals.

Originally Posted by AztecAztec

As usual, I agree with @eva2. It would be the rational thing to do. But the GOP Freedom Caucus ( "Lemmings with suicide vests") is not rational. They are the crazies.

They are the ones that took out John Boehner.

Maybe they will be too busy getting rid of Planned Parenthood, Social Security and Obamacare to worry about the BRIDGE Act.

Originally Posted by 2Face

There's two things that come to my mind.
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Originally Posted by 2Face

There's two things that come to my mind.

1) We don't have a choice because the Republican administration is here. So you calling me thick for supporting it makes zero sense. Do you propose we just go hide in our holes and come back out when a Democrat is elected again?...

2) I'm pretty sure the full consensus here is that under Hillary, only one thing would have happened with us and that is DACA would have been kept alive and just simply the way it is. There's no freakin way in hell Republicans would have signed on to help pass CIR. The woman is hated immensely by even Democrats so you can only imagine how Republicans feel for her...

Simple logic. The man has no intention to deport us. And yes I am cautiously optimistic because he is surrounded by some immigrant haters like Sessions and Pence but knowing the man himself, his background, I actually believe he is going to be forcing McConnell and Ryan (Both who support SOME SORT of immigration reform) to pass legislation.