Leaked EO drafts - Page 5

highhysteric · 01-25-2017, 08:09 PM

It's just so funny how we are all on the edge. Our moods are based on what article was recently published. Just give me 2 more years and I will make it work for me.

dreamseventwo · 01-25-2017, 08:12 PM

I guess it could be worse with publicly listing our names/ssn/address and work address for "transparency" so that anyone can be a agent. This is lots of heart I guess.
I see something along these lines in one of the EOs- PII privacy only applies to US citizens.

legendver2 · 01-25-2017, 08:13 PM

I can't wait for his "lots of heart" explanation lmao!

Dres2011 · 01-25-2017, 08:14 PM

man now that 2face is worried things are really starting to go down hill. we must do what we must!

greentea · 01-25-2017, 08:14 PM

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Trump is expanding the definition of what makes an immigrant a “criminal” and therefore a priority for deportation
By the end of the Obama administration, unauthorized immigrants living in the US who hadn’t been convicted of crimes were at pretty low risk of being deported. But that was a fairly recent development. In the last years of George W. Bush’s presidency, and the first several years of Obama’s, aggressive enforcement in the interior of the US — from high-profile workplace raids under Bush to widespread cooperation with local law enforcement under Obama — led to the deportation of hundreds of thousands of immigrants living in the United States each year, many of them people who hadn’t committed a crime while living here.

Trump and his administration have made two promises: They’re going to go after criminals first, and they’re going to restore “power and responsibility” to immigration agents to determine which immigrants to deport. These two promises are in conflict: The Obama administration’s efforts to target convicted criminals were exactly what led immigration agents to feel that they weren’t being allowed to do their jobs.

The executive order resolves the conflict. It makes it easier for immigration agents to consider unauthorized immigrants as criminals — and easier to deport them.

ICE raid arrest
For one thing, the Trump administration is laying the groundwork to keep raising awareness of unauthorized immigrants who commit crimes as a way to advocate for harsher enforcement: The executive order creates an office to advocate for victims of crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants. But it goes way beyond symbolism.

Instead of focusing on deporting convicted criminals, the executive order tells ICE agents to focus on immigrants who’ve been convicted, charged, or “have committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense.” Those “offenses” include immigration crimes (illegal entry and reentry are both criminal offenses) and things that are part and parcel of living in the US as an unauthorized immigrant, like driving without a license. (Indeed, the order prioritizes people who have engaged in “fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter,” which could apply to anyone who applies for a job and pays taxes under a fake Social Security number.) Furthermore, the executive order tells immigration agents to prioritize anyone they feel is a “risk to public safety or national security” even if they haven’t done any of those things — which is to say, anyone immigration agents want to deport.

And ICE will have more resources to carry this out. The executive order triples the number of agents in ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations office. Those agents will be able to resume use of the tool that made it easiest for them to pick up immigrants involved in the criminal justice system. Trump is resurrecting the Obama-era Secure Communities program, which automatically checked immigration databases to identify people checked into local jails, then allowed ICE agents to ask local officials to hand over any immigrant they wanted to deport.

Secure Communities was initially touted by the Obama administration as a way to identify and deport “criminal aliens,” but as it expanded it became clear that it was also being used to deport immigrants who hadn’t done anything more serious than commit a traffic offense (or hadn’t done anything at all). So the Obama administration replaced Secure Communities with the Priority Enforcement Program in 2014, which limited when ICE agents got notified about an immigrant in a jail and when they could request to take him into custody.

Trump’s decision to go back to the broader Secure Communities program does two things. It gives ICE agents a broader pool of immigrants to draw from for potential detention and deportation. And it signals that any immigrant caught up in the criminal justice system — whether or not they’re ultimately convicted of a crime — will be considered a “criminal” by this administration. If President Trump is going to find and deport 2 to 3 million criminal unauthorized immigrants, when nowhere near that number are actually convicted criminals, this is how he’d do it.

Damn.

lakers1824 · 01-25-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vivace

And what? As long as your DACA is valid, you're safe from deportation even if this EO gets signed.

DACA will be cancelled. You may be able to keep your EAD and work but that doesn't mean you won't be deported. The protection protecting our deportation is DACA not the EAD. Trump cancels DACA we lose that protection right away.

bernie925 · 01-25-2017, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by legendver2

Well I still want to hear his so called explanation of this in tonight's interview.

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Originally Posted by lakers1824

DACA will be cancelled. You may be able to keep your EAD and work but that doesn't mean you won't be deported. The protection protecting our deportation is DACA not the EAD. Trump cancels DACA we lose that protection right away.

I don't think agents are gonna go after Dreamers unless they committed a crime, they don't enough resources to go after everyone. As soon as he repeals DACA, Democrats will get enraged and I believe the Republicans will pass Bridge Act for more border protection resources.

dreamseventwo · 01-25-2017, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lakers1824

DACA will be cancelled. You may be able to keep your EAD and work but that doesn't mean you won't be deported. The protection protecting our deportation is DACA not the EAD. Trump cancels DACA we lose that protection right away.

They might not have thought this through, but it could go either ways I guess. As EAD is formally based off DACA, granted daca period maybe valid or they revoke it anyways and only EAD remains as it's own document.

bernie925 · 01-25-2017, 08:21 PM

I don't think we should all panic yet. Obviously Trump and Republicans are very hesitant to repeal DACA. I think they want to compromise with Democrats so that it's a win win situation for them

FLDreamerrr · 01-25-2017, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bernie925

I don't think we should all panic yet. Obviously Trump and Republicans are very hesitant to repeal DACA. I think they want to compromise with Democrats so that it's a win win situation for them

They don't have to compromise with anyone since they are the majority of every branch of government .

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